Edgy
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So just grills over the lower section? Should be beautiful. Keep us updated.
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PE has the usual white/brown/black, but they also have a few that are for restoring vintage amps like old Fenders. One of those might strike a fancy.
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Dickason did some pretty exhaustive testing in the Loudspeaker Design Cookbook, and that egg crate stuff is pretty much useless. If you want to damp(en) the walls, you need something with layers, like the sound barrier stuff I used. If you are concerned with interior reflections, good old 1" fiberglass is hard to beat, but messy, of course. There is a material made by Owens-Corning they call #705 that is a stiff 1" fiberglass material made for insulating. Koonce and Wright used it in a subwoofer they built for Audio Express a few years ago, and reported very good results. They remarked that the same material is used in some very high end speakers. I called around looking for it, and found a supplier locally, because I'm intending to replicate their sub.
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I wish Klipsch had put some decent input cups like that on my '84 Heresies.
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I'm sure it is a very good product, the only problem is that to line the inside of both bass bins I need about 18 sheets = Approx. $300.
Got to be a cheaper way.
I've seen the picture of your "redneck" audio system. You got enough high dollar gear to fuel ebay for a day.
Cough it up!
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Euroklipsch. Very
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I don't mess with the forum links. I just use a photobucket account. They have built in links with the "img" tags, all you have to do is click them once, and then paste into your post. I've put two pix at a time in a post, but I imagine you could do more.
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I used this stuff, and really like it. It's easy to cut and the peel and stick back make it easy to apply.
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=260-530
Funny thing is, Parts Express has it in their "cabinet dampening material" section...
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Didn't see any mold inside... I guess mine have never been damped, dampened.... or who knows what.
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...This is a technically oriented forum, so when a knowledgeable person corrects the use of a technical term, most people don't get offended. HDBRbuilder's input was polite and deserved a similar response, if any.
You're kidding, right? Calling me "newbie" is polite? Since when?
I didn't get offended. I've been on enough forums for long enough to have some pretty thick skin. I just thought it was funny that someone else decided to correct his "teaching", and I made fun of his mistake. That was all.
I don't care if he built Lamborghinis in 1972, working on an assembly line doesn't make you an expert, especially in English. The problem is, the two terms are basically interchangeable, yet he choose to correct me. And then, and oh my God it just keeps getting better, his retort just shores up the opposition.
Which begs the question, why are you defending him? I guess the old guard is circling the wagons. Whatever. You still haven't addressed my statement that your "expert" didn't add anything worthwhile to the discussion. He might even have some insight into the changes from Heresy ones to twos. Someone has mentioned that damp(en)ing was added later.
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BTW, Edgy, HDBRbuilder worked at Klipsch for years and knows more about speakers than many people on this forum.And yet he would rather play grammar Nazi than any useful input into the topic.
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tr.v. damped, damp·ing, damps
1. To make damp or moist; moisten.2. To extinguish (a fire, for example) by cutting off air.3. To restrain or check; discourage.4. Music To slow or stop the vibrations of (the strings of a keyboard instrument) with a damper.5. Physics To decrease the amplitude of (an oscillating system).No response to the newbie's uncalled-for remark, though!
I may be new to this forum, but I'm not new to the internet, and I'm not some young punk. And I'm definitely familiar with grammar Nazis. If you aspire to that, at least get it right.
Your entry doesn't help your point. You tried to tell me that "dampening" referred to moisture, and yet the very FIRST entry for "damped" is "to make damp or moist".
Give up while you're behind.
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Main Entry: damp·en
Pronunciation: \'dam-p?n\ Function: verb Inflected Form(s): damp·ened; damp·en·ing \'damp-ni?, 'dam-p?-\ Date: 1547 transitive verb 1 : to check or diminish the activity or vigor of : deaden <the heat dampened our spirits>Hey HDBR, ride your "1983 60th Anniversary Edition BMW R100RT" all the way back to your mama's house. [:$]
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Edgy,
Neat work. What's your take on the sound?
Ya know, it's interesting. I noticed pretty much the same improvement that I did with the other speakers I added dampening to (one inch of fiberglass in this case) that I referenced in the other thread. At first listen, it seems you lose some bass, but with more careful listening, it becomes obvious that the bass is still there, it is just cleaner and not as noisy. I think it is because you are taming a lot of the internal reflections, that otherwise bounce back and hit the woofer from behind, causing a lot of out of phase noise.
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If you need to catch up, look down the page a bit for my "Where's the dampening" thread. So... I ordered some of the PE 3/4" sonic barrier (and some terminal cups and foam tape for the back, didn't have time for those today before work) and did the inside of my '84 Heresies. This stuff is great! Perfect depth for a Heresy, and the 18x24 sheet worked out really well. I ordered four sheets, but only used three. Did the back, one side, and the top and bottom of each speaker, plus a little bit on the crossover side of one wall. The adhesive backing made it really easy to apply, just had to position it right the first time. I even worked out a way to get the back real easy. I just cut it to size, peeled the backing and gently set it up in the opening with the sticky side out, and put the back in place. Because of the depth of the mid driver, it would stay in place and stick enough to take it out again and then press it down well.
So here's some pix. Oh, the sound!? Well, it's subtle, to be sure, but the bass is better. Not so boomy. Much tighter and cleaner. I know, I know, the Heresy isn't known for lots of bass, but there are lots of subwoofers with 12" drivers in smaller boxes than this.
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...but I did sleep at a holiday inn express.
Sniffing glue will do that.
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But, Fender is really proud of his nosehair trimmer and his toaster, along with other personal grooming and small appliances.... or maybe he is trying to be funny. I get confused too easily. I may need to check with him as I'm getting to the age where the nose and ear hairs are or soon will be starting to grow.... and may need a good recommendation.
I prefer tweezers.
Of course it's all in fun.
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I like it! The light colored grill looks great. Gives it a nice seventies look.
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Like Dtel mentioned, you an add the equipment into your signature and location.
This from the guy with a "Goonies" quote for a sig!
Personally, I think huge equipment lists in sigs is lame. I mean really, how insecure can you get. Now the guy with the nosehair trimmer and the toaster in his sig... THAT is funny!
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OK guys, thanks. Yea, the Old English looked fine on the risers, so I guess I'll continue. I have no idea on the maintenance history of the speakers, just that I am the third owner.
I'm hooked
in 2-Channel Home Audio
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If there is one bright spot to this economy, it's that people are selling stuff. I bought my first pair of Klipsch, some nice '84 Heresy's, a few months ago, and they are rocking the bedroom. Found this forum, and now, well, it ain't gettin' better! I decided I wanted something better for my HT mains, and read lots of good stuff on the KG 5.5. So I found some on CL, and picked them up today. Pretty good deal, I think, and the original owner to boot. Man, these things have nice bass! I have them hooked up in my home office right now, just to listen to them in two channel first. Could not be happier!