Youthman I see you went to RF series...im in a big debate with myself weather or not to scrap my cf3 and update to current speaker line...how much more dramatic did the change from the epics to the rf series sound?????? My issue with my home theater has been I have had to place towers on side...due to 114" filmscreen, im sure audiophiles would get nauseated at myset up. I looked at the kv 4 online and am tempted but I have a 7.1 and no surrounds would really match the old speakers. Not sure what to do.