Ramsha

Bout of Inferiority complex again? You need help! Anyway, deal with your problem yourself... []

When I signed up, I didn't care and still don't care as to what default location it chooses for me. Hope that help. Trying to find some contradictions in my 'cliams' is fine, but I know what I know, I have learnt, what I have! BB carry hundreds of speakers in aroom and many of those are Klipsch -- towers, quintet etc. etc. Sales man would 'close' the doors of the room during demo to 'give you great' feel of every product they keep. I asked the Salesman why to close doors? Answer : "Experience the quality ... compared to Bose you just heard" (which were all outside in big hall with hundreds of other TVs/systems blaring sound)! I didn't heard Klipsch (this time) there by Mirage and Definitive.. Mirage was far better. (didn't recall their brand numbers/name.. ) Many a times they will playKlipsch first and then Definitive and finally Polk etc. to 'hint' their own heirarchy of speakers! One guy was keen to demonstrate the powers of Mirage and I was sincerely impressed. At friends place they have Polk and Klipsch. Heard them. Polk in my taste was a tade higher. Heard V-10s hundreds of times at (I owed one till recently..). Lovely piece. Overall, it's the taste of particular pair of ears that matter. Now whatever you call [bs], yours choice..!

My apology for that, didn't mean to hurt.. intended as a light joke came out badly.

ok... I thought it's you who is 'audiophile' at your home [D] .. Enjoy your evening! [|-)]

ok... I thought it's you who is 'audiophile' at your home [D] .. Enjoy your evening! [|-)]

ok... I thought it's you who is 'audiophile' at your home [D] .. Enjoy your evening! [|-)]

What if I need both? Do you have any readymade solutions? Or is that in your theory exclusive properties. To simplify for you: Are you saying if I need performance, I won't get Aesthetics and vice-versa?

I was trying to get answers to these here: http://www.bose.com/controller?event=VIEW_STATIC_PAGE_EVENT&url=/learning/waveguide.jsp I know you all will make fun of this or me by quoting this site. But I was reasing it seriously. I don't think they are fooling us by writing all these. Let me quote from this site: "Additional analysis and measurements showed that the tube could be folded into intricate patterns with no ill effect on sound quality. This meant a waveguide measuring several feet in length could be woven into a small tabletop enclosure, delivering sound with more clarity, depth and lifelike quality than a conventional component stereo system. " Probably this would explain some of it to us.. But still... I am going to learn further even if I purchase one brand or other... :-)

The V-30 systems I've seen online run about $3000. Before I'd lay out that much on the Bose V-30, I'd want to hear other systems in the same price range. Klipsch has a few: WF-34 - http://www.klipsch.com/na-en/products/wf-34-home-theater-overview/ XL-23 - http://www.klipsch.com/na-en/products/xl-23-home-theater-overview/ RF-62 - http://www.klipsch.com/na-en/products/rf-62-home-theater-system-overview/ Three different product lines with different attributes, but all 5.1 channel home theater systems for around $3000. True, you'll need to supply your own amp and DVD player, so you could knock it down to the next lower system with prices in the $2000-$2500 range, leaving enough left over for an AVR and DVD player. If after comparing all of those systems (including any other brands you might think of), you should go with what sounds the best to you. I have heard all these and all are excellent. So overall whichever one I get, I will land in the range of $3K+! So much for overpriced Bose. Anyway the sound from the ones you mentioned is excellent. The problem is it's not 'user-freindly' or to an exten 'listener-friendly' (mean : you need to bother to set them to get a "Sweet SPOTs" etc. etc.! Even Klipsch Site mention Sweet Spot generously in their demo videos! I propose you look this, if you can rationally help me with this: http://www.bose.com/popup/tech_details/popup_waveRadioReveal.jsp This is about Size and filling sound. That caught my attention on Bose site.

I live in a home with ample space. But I won't mind even Apartment or even a house trailer. No issues. However, my quests is for 'better sound' even if I have to spend some money in the range you quoted. I am in west coast and not in Ohio area. Won't reach you, but have freinds with great Klipschorns etc. and big set up and have experienced them quiet a lot. My quest is simple: Why so much of wood and big driver is needed to produce that level of sound. Dr. Who provided a good theory - but that's conventional. All speakers are build on that and hence need towers. But component systems also 'don't save you money if the argument is Bose is overpriced etc. I am ending up at same range with Klipsch, Definitive, KEF, Mirage and Polk! So. that nullify! Also, I don't need "EXTRA" Bass to get excited. I need uniformity and completion of sound etc. Tha'ts the requirement. So, I thought this forum may help, but....

Will have V-30. I heard them for many a weeks and others for months... Decided to go for V-30. Great.... However, I must say others sounded great, but there was some detailing in V-30 that was missing in most of them, The story you have is great and realistic... I won't disbelieve that. Klipsch too sound well! I depends what I need for my ears -- is it more Bass, etc. etc. or full package? and how my ears react to that! Taste matters..

OK, Be happy with your knowledge! I am with mine!

As if I was arguing with you. [|-)] I said twice 'Be Happy'. and you keep coming back to me. You are following Roger's way... Tring to compare and compete as if I am spokesman for Bose! I said 2 things: A) Tendencies of Bose Bashers and flimsy arguments they put forward Why small speakers (Cubes) from Bose sound as same as much bigger ones from their competitiors. I wanted to know. I am searching. Stopping here!

Does that matter?

What's up? You churn out judgement faster than Judge Judy on the Idiot Box! []

OK! Be happy with your monstrously powerful speakers.. [ip] I have nothing against them.

OK! Be happy.[]

Plausible. Again, I have yet to come to that judgement. Product positioning for different segments need you have different products.I am not for comparing Apples and Oranges. Sound degradation can happen even in using over sized speakers/sources in any size room.

I haven't reached that judgment as yet! Similar arguments were put forward during the years I have quoted in the analogies! All hid their heads in embarassements later. Accoustics Science and Engineering has its own specialities and pecularities..Yet, the trend is same/similar.

Dear Roger What to Prove? There is no competition buddy!

Read this sentence of your own. That will amaze yourself -- what you just said! [] Think. It's not time to be biased due to our Brand Loyalties! I was blindly and to some extent even now a Sony Brand loyal for many gizmos, but then Bose has done something that has triggered something in my mind. I have nothing against Klipsch, it has great product series too... But I am looking for pathbreaking products.. Sony has provided in past decades, Bose too!

[] Bose have developed Auto-Suspension system. That's look quite fantastic on videos on YouTube and their internet site! May be one day they would do something with Microwave too! [8-|] Who knows? I won't speculate!

That's a intelligent question and that's precisely what I am trying to figure out. Honestly, their cubes sound fantastic. I don't know what abd how they are doing their engineering/research, I went through their internet site "Learning Center". I could understand that they are doing some serious stuff, but again, the question you have put is the core of the matter, that I am curious to know! The only thing I can think off is that the classical way of making sound is pushing air in special way... have they used the same classical way in more innovative ways? Passing that air through some special ways/routes/angles/directions etc? Or is it totally different innovative way to generate sound? Curious!

:-) Cool down. I am quiet and not shouting.! I am not in competition... What have you assumed?

OK! Be happy. You are entitled to your views!