Great, thanks for the input Bill,,,,,,,going to go ahead with the 83's and also check out this Onkyo m-5099 p/amp. it's a 200 w/ch. which is double the Denon i believe. As long as that will match up and it's as clean as the Denon then i should be getting closer to where i'd like to be....( for now).....
When i can get a RC-64, i think i'll try it on the Denon side and hope the Onkyo/RF-83 combo doesn't over power the Denon channels.......
Thanks again, TSM