Patrizio

I can't get them cheaper than ab 1650 a pair (RF83).....immagine list price was about 1200 each!! In germany they're much cheaper than in the Netherlands...like cars and food etc..

Thanks, Dennie. I will let you know what the "outcome" will be of my purchase...and most of all of my ears...

I am considering buying pair RF 83 for 1700 (brandnew , 5 year warranty). But! her is comes: for same price I can buy pair RF 63 and the RW 12D! (brandnew , 5 year warranty too). Can create the RF 63 with the RW 12D a louder deeper "thunderstorm"in stereo and surround sound than the RF 83 without the RW 12D? What is your experience? I own already the RF 82 (i want to use them as back surround) and the RC 62... I am looking forward your advices, thanks!