jvaughan

The issue or what could be a non issue is that when I use the spl meter with or without the amp in the food chain it reads at about 78db all gains set null. Couch is about 7 to 8 ft back from mains and center. I thought this would read in the 80's for sure even without the amp in-line.

Thank you for the welcome derrickdj1. These are the first Klipsch speakers I have owned and they are an entirely different beast than I am used to. What I am wanting is what is needed for home theater and that only. If you are running a sub and your speakers are crossed over at 80 hrz do you really gain anything by the extra drivers in tower speakers? I used to come from the bigger is better camp when it came to mains but if you are crossing them at 80hrz what benefit are the bass drivers in a tower? For music full range, yes I get that but for movies I am trying to decide if I will get much if anything from upgrading to towers. My room is bigger so that's my dilemma. Yes, running the large RF 7's set to small with a sub allow a 3-6 db improvement in midrange performance. The RF 7 speaker cones don't have to produce the low bass frequencies. This result in less cone movement, which equals less distortion. Also running the speakers set to small minimizes phase issues and cancellation problems between the mains and the subs. The redirecting of the bass to the subwoofer also increase the system overhead and power management potential. This is especially significant if using an avr with lower wattage What center do you have? There is no way around not having a good center speaker for HT. The RC 62 should be all you need if you are using the bookshelf speakers. Demo some HT and see if you are really missing something. The big impact speaker for HT is the subwoofers and not tower speakers. Setup is the key. This will help get you the soundstage that you are looking for. Getting the mains more than 8 ft apart for me made the soundstage wide/larger and using front height speakers fill the top of the theater area. The front stage is a wall of sound. Having more headroom is paramount when using smaller, less efficient speaker. It is not ususal to see surround speakers to need much more power to reach reference level than the large towers. Put up your signature then it will be easy for other to see what you have and make recommendations. So I would gain in output and clarity by running towers crossed at 80hrz versus my current setup with the RB81's? If that is the case then maybe the rf 62 would be the way to go with my larger room.

Now I am feeling challenged. How do I add a sig?

Or another angle is the rc64 in my case over going with towers for more impact and slam as that is what I feel I am missing form current setup

Yeah but its that diminishing point of return that has me worried. I may upgrade to towers and the rc64 down the road. Concerning the center channel for movies, yeah bigger is better beings that's where its at for movies is the center. Build around the biggest center unless your room is really small. I have run the YPAO on my Yamaha and it at first set the center to 200hrz small the left and right mains at 180 hrz small and the rb35s to large. I have played movies and music for a couple of weeks on the system and redid the auto cal. and finally got the front mains to read at 80hrz small and the center at 160hrz small. I have never had a center or a bookshelf speaker set to anything above 80hrz small running auto cal. through the Yamaha. that is why I was wondering about the larger tower over the rb81's and maybe a bigger center than what I have. Been going over this with a buddy of mine that is familiar with klipsch and we cant figure it out. That is why I am pecking away at you guys one issue at a time. And yes it gets better. Got some problems and have no answers. Yes I do appreciate the feed back from you guys. I have owned some very costly gear in my time so some of these questions seem like newb questions but these are for real.

O.k. thanks guys, that about sums up my thoughts as well. I don't think I would gain anything by using towers either. Thanks for your time and I did do a search on this first but came up with nothing.

God your killing me! Makes sense though. I just didn't think the left and right mains had that much of an impact as the center unless your room is massive in size....then you have jumped to the rc64 which I don't think I need. I use an sms-1 to calibrate the sub and manually calibrate the rest of the system with an spl meter. We are getting somewhere.

Thank you for the welcome derrickdj1. These are the first Klipsch speakers I have owned and they are an entirely different beast than I am used to. What I am wanting is what is needed for home theater and that only. If you are running a sub and your speakers are crossed over at 80 hrz do you really gain anything by the extra drivers in tower speakers? I used to come from the bigger is better camp when it came to mains but if you are crossing them at 80hrz what benefit are the bass drivers in a tower? For music full range, yes I get that but for movies I am trying to decide if I will get much if anything from upgrading to towers. My room is bigger so that's my dilemma.

My room is 15x20x8 and used strictly for home theater. Do you guys see any benefit at all in using any of the towers over the RB81's as left and right mains. Everything crossed @ 80hrz and set to small. What I am trying to decide is if a tower speaker is even needed for movies when using a sub. System: Rythmik sub Yamaha Aventage RXA 3000 RC62 II RB81ii RB35's (surrounds)