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What camp? Set or pp? Don't even know what that means.

Ok now you got my attention. My thing is I am not really worried about power supply because I will probably get an amp later on. A xpa3 or xpa 5 Timothy make a good point. So my main objective is to get a good receiver with the best sound quality. Then add an amp later for power. Does that make sense or am I going at this wrong. For the price on the refurbished that is very tempting but with processors and all how does it compare to the 808. Kowing that the 808 has a little less power I still went with the 808 over the 875 because of being newer and I think it would have a better end result when I throw the amp on. One with the option of the 876 in the mix..... Is that the better option knowing that I will be getting a amp shortly?

Ok still new to this hobby of stereos. The explain to be the term clipping. I have never heard that term before. Thanks.

To add to my comment. They also have pre outs so down the road you can always add an amp for more power! So far I think the onkyo was a solid decision.

I am planning on buying an external amp in the future anyway so I was looking at what would have better sound and it was recommended to me to get the newer of the amps where the 875 was way back in 2007. I thought the it was a good point. Maybe I am wrong. I would love is someone could correct me I am. Ether way I think they will both be good receivers.

Ok well I told you I would keep you updated on what i ended up doing I just bought the onkyo tx-nr808. I know that seems like a quick decision because on my last post I was not sure at all but since I am stuck my couch after just having surgery on my shoulder I can't do much other than search the net and research different products. After a few phone calls to vanns and reading alot of forums I decided on the onkyo. Right now they have it on amazon for $670. Which believe is a great price. At 135w per channel it has a lot more power than the denon. I believe it is alitte more money but at $670 no by much. Maybe that helps. I don't know. Good luck

Alright between subxero and the guy I talked to at vanns I am sold and the results go like this. I am getting the onkyo tx-rn808. For $620 I think that is a great deal. I will wait and see how it sounds the guy at vanns said at 135w per channel I would probably have enough power. Granted that 135 x 7 is only on paper but them again I will probably upgrade to the emotiva xpa5 later on next year when I the new system paid off. Maybe I won't need the amp but my guess is adding the xpa would be a noticeable upgrade. Do your guys agree with me?

Well it looks like I will need to be getting a receiver first then. I found an onkyo tx-sr875 on clearance or $650 and a onkyo Tx-nr808 for $620. I believe the "808 is newer but I think the the 865 was a higher end receiver they are the price range I am looking for. Are they good purchases? Or would something like the denon 1911 what I have previously been looking at be better?

Is there a separate component line around the $600-$800 range that is good? My hopes are to spend $700 on an emotiva xpa-5. That is if I have to buy new. Then look for a good preamp or pre/pro I don't know the difference. Maybe they are the same thing. For around $800 or would it jut be better to spend $1500 on a kick *** av receiver? I am Very new to this whole ht thing.

Jrod and youthman you guys are a lot of help thanks. Price wise I think I have settled on an amp. Emotiva xpa - 5. I have heard great reviews on them and they are out of my price range. Now for the whole preamp. This is one area that just is overwhelming. Since I am new to this hobby I don't really understand the difference of all the options out there. Av receivers. Stereo receivers, preamp, pre/pro. Maybe a lot of it is I am just not familiar with the lingo yet. For now if I used mu av receiver as a preamp. O I loose certain functions of my receiver? How does the amp make up for the lose if any? Please explain in simple terms thanks. A lot to learn in my new found hobby but I love it!

As I have been reading different post about different things. ( I had surgery on my shoulder so all I do is set on the couch with my iPad and search. It is terrible.) and the more I read about receivers the more the question comes up. Would it be better to do a pre/pro and amp than an av receiver? I just bought the rf-82 II ht system. ( a result of hours surfing the Internet) the speakers show up tomorrow. So the more I search aroung and read it looks like the best set up would be having some amp to get more power to them. This topic is very confusing to me. ( It could be the meds ) Yura. With you rf - 7 did you think your speakers were lacking power at all? I know they are a lot bigger than what I have. so if it can push yours it should be able to push mine? Or is getting an amp a better way. Emotiva seems to be a commonly recommended amp.between $500 and $700 though. So now it is a discussion of price. Please thoughts and feelings? I know there are cheaper routs I just don't know them.

Yeah I just purchased the rf 82 II on Monday. They show up on Thursday. So yeah I hear your point and I knew someone was going to make that point. Haven't even got them and I am worrying about them under performing. I am aware of that the reson why I am asking is this is my first "real" system and honestly I probably wouldn't know if it was under performing or not. I'm new to all of this. So I guess what my plan is... I will pick up the amp and then like USRNET said get a pre amp later on. Is there any suggestions on an amp? I have seen a lot of people with the emotiva's. I am open to suggestions. Is eBay the best option for picking something up used or is anyone else aware of any other sites. Clearance or scratch and dent? Thanks for the help guys.

I just bought the rf-82 system and have been looking at a new receiver so this post is a lot of help. Since this is a pre amp what amp are you using? How does it house so far. I have been looking in the $600 range but after reading your post I am thinking I need to follow your example and go high end to get the performance I am looking for. I hope someone will correct me if I am wrong.

I am looking at the same set up. Post what you end up deciding I would like to know how it turns out. I have seen that the denon 791 is exactly the same just with out hd radio and pre outs for zone 2. Which for me is ok and might save me more money. I am just looking for the best sound I can get with out spending more than $600 - $650 ish. I do have a friend with the denon 1911 and is running the wf - 35 home theater system so I am interested to hear out it sounds. He is finishing his theater room so hasn't got it set up yet. I will be sure to post it and let you know. The reviews on the denon I have seen have all been great. Bestcovery and cnet are both great places to check reviews. Good luck and keep us posted.

I recently purchased the rf 82 II package. 5.1. My current reciever is a yamaha rx-v463. I honestly don't know how good that receiver is. 525w 105 x 5. So I want to get th most out of my speakers. I have been considering the denon 1911 but honestly I could careless about the 3d. I just want quality sound. But even with the denon 1911 it is only 105 watt per channel. Is that ging to be enough for these speakers? Do I spend the money on the upgraded receiver and not worry because that is enough power or do I get an amp? I have seen xpa amps that are that are $530 for a 3 channell and $700 for a 5 channel. After spending $3200 on a stereo system I am not really wanting to spend much more. My limit is right around $650 range. So what are your suggestions? What is going to benefit me more? If I get the amp what is recommended? 3 or 5 channel. Any of brands or options you would suggest? Please be honest. If my yamaha is crap tell me so. I just want to get the most out of this new set up.

I am considering purchasing either the wf 35 home theater system or the rf 82 II. When looking at on the klipsch site the msrp for the wf - 35's is $1500. The msrp for the 82 II is $1200. I'm almost positive the rf 82 II is a better speaker and all around better home theater set up. What I was hoping for is that someone could help confirm this for me. For a home theater set up is the 82's the way I want to go. That's the max price range that I want to go. It's just that stupid msrp and the fact that I don't have any dealer locally to go and try them out first.