well ive had a lil time to listen to these speakers, I love movies, awsome sound....was very dissapointed in musc however, Adelle in concert being the exception blue ray, mostly you tube sounds...then, i went on pandora, listining now actually and i cant leave...again the sound has come alive and im not sure whats goin on? pandora vs you tube HUGE differance!! anyone know whats up here??my onkyo is playing in plii music dsx. Moved those RB 51 up high and also love the extra sound coming in from them, I left the surrounds behind the couch as they sound good to me there and i dont have another option. anyway, just a lil update for ya's Thanks Again