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First, thanks again guys for all your time. I bi-wired the center and the right/left and I must say it made a huge difference in the sound quality.I was very skepticle that bi-wiring would make a noticeble difference in the sound but it did.The base is smooth and responsive and the highs are more musical and life -like.It sounds like a different system now , I just can't believe it.This demonstrates to me how much I have to learn about audio and HT.Its also louder than it was before at the same volme .I replayed portions of the same movies listed above and a grinchy frown turned to a grin.What a difference! Well , I guess the message here is to bi-wire Klipsch speakers .The center channel still isnt perfect but at 95% of where I want it.If it mellows some with time it will be amazing....well thats all I have guys , thanks agian Ed

wow, thanks for all the advice guys , I really do appreciate you giving me your time. boa : will try your bi-wiring and speaker settings thanks for the tip RMckenny : alot of people agree with you that Yamaha doesnt go well with "hot" speakers and I guess Klipsch speakers are considered "hot". I'm also hearing that Yamaha mellows with time , Ive heard it called "burn in" time. All of that sounds suspsect to me, is there such a thing? I'm not convinced about "burn in" and maybe your right , maybe I should switch to dennon , thanks R. jll: I have noticed that good sound tracks (read modern) sound good and bad ones, horrible . There doesnt seem to be any middle ground here, the sound track sounds good or horrible . My test movies Star Wars Phantom Menice : good - effects life-like bad - ear peircing highs unnatural dialogue Hannable - good - pretty good dialogue/music but not great bad - cant adjust the center speaker so it melds properly with the surrounds ; its either in your face or not loud enough Pefect Storm - all bad - too bright , unnatural , Full Metal Jacket - good :the best of the bunch Misery : (not 5.1) good : not bad dialogue but not great either Pulp fiction - good - effects are okay bad - dialogue unnatural and music is bright unpleasantly so

belial, No I didnt test the RC3 before i bought it . I was so impressed with the rf3s that i figure , how can i go wrong........well , guess what? So far , I think I was wrong.I also agree with your "boxy" observation , the voices dont seem natural , they are clear as a bell but agian, unnatural and edgy (does that make sense?) Anyway , thanks for the input belial

George, No sure havent owned Klipsch before. I also notice that my rc3 sounds small , nasally and compressed. Both the Yamaha rx-v1000 and the rc3 are new, do the need "burn in" time? That rc3 really sounds honky and I dont like it.The rx-v1000 has a built in equalizer for the center channel , I played with that some but I'm still not satisfied. Also , my rf-3s are not biwired and anyway Im not sure that the rx-v1000 has room to fit another wire. Even if i did bi-wire them, would it make a difference? Maybe Im not being clear enough, the system sounds pretty good , but not great and not as good as the Infiniy setup at Circuit City.Yes , I know that its in a sound room specially designed and all but I think with the right tweeking , my Klipsches will put 'em to shame.

I bought the reference line (rf3,rc3,rs3 ,ksw12 ) and hooked it up to my Yamaha rx-v1000. First , im dissapointed with the power of the Yamaha and secondly , I'm not exactly dazzled at the perfomance of my referece system. Its performance seems bright ,painfully bright but before I give everything a bad review I thought I'd get advice from guys who know more about HT than I do. My HT room is an "L" shaped room (of equal size ends )with the HT system at the end one part of the "L" .As I said the room is "L" shaped and both rooms are about equal in size . These two rooms have no doors or barriers between them and both are about 12'x20' with the common space between them being about 10'x10'(I know my explaination is not the greatest but its the best I can do). I uderstand that speaker placement is paramount and room acoustics is important too. The room is in the basement with a padded carpet over a concrete floor and wood paneling on the all walls . The ceiling is 8' and the rs3( mounted 6'high) are about 15' from the tv at the other end and the listening position is between the rs3s facing the tv. Can someone help ? Not enough amp power? Room is an acoustic nightmare?