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Done deal. Just got the Energy CF-70, CC-10, CB-5, JBL PB10 sub. Sounds great! Thanks to all who responded to my questions.

Thanks. I listened to both the F-30 and KF-28 which sounded the same. They are different in cosmetics only. The Energy speakers aren't as bright. The Klipsch sound better for music but the Energy's sound better watching movies. Again, this is my opinion. For some reason, I couldnt pull the trigger on the Klipsch. Today I heard the Energy CF-50 and CF-70 towers and liked them alot. I am done shopping just have to figure cf-50 or cf-70. Thanks to everyone who responded.

Change of plans. I just heard the Energy CF-50 & CF-70. Man they sound good. I am switching to Energy, just have to figure Cf-50 or Cf-70.

Thanks. I only wish the KC-25 and KS-14 were 50% off also. Do they ever put those models on sale? I was thinking of getting the front 3 and waiting a few months if the KS-14 goes on sale. Any good ideas on where to sell a pair of vintage Pioneer CS-911a speakers (15" woofer + 5 midrange/tweeter)?

Ahh forget about the Jamo's, they are 6 ohms.

I went to Vanns, didnt see the Klipsch but did see these for $199, normal is $799. Has anyone heard of Jamo Speakers? http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/item/features/544351896

I called Crutchfield where I purchased my Denon. They agreed with you. Luck of the draw, the advisor had a Denon 2310 and Ref floor speakers with no issue at all. The Klipsch support was probably annoyed that I was his 5th call today, re: Icon vs Synergy series. Pretty much the biggest difference is looks. They should put that on their website. Final thoughts. I will be going to BB on black friday, getting the KF-28 floor, KC-25 center and KS-14 surround all for about $980.

I just got off the phone with Klipsch. The KF-30 is the same as F-30. Now I am really confused. I wanted the KF-28 front speakers but now I am told by Klipsch that my Denon 2312 receiver doesn't have enough amps to support them, that I am better off with Bookshelf speakers, maybe the Refence RB 51 all around (4 speakers).

I am thinking of getting the KF-28 Icon and KC-25 Icon series from Best Buy for the front 3 and picking up the KB-20's from HH Greg for the surround sound speakers that actually sit right at the back of the couch facing each other. The question is which would be better, the KB-20 or KS-14 for the rear speakers. Does the 1/2 moon shape of the surround sound better than bookshelf if the speakers are facing each other (i.e. not towards the front). Thanks.

Thanks for responding. I think HH Greg re-labels the F-30 to KF-30. Salesman told me the box says F-30. I just didn't want to buy an older model as I read bad reviews on the Icon V, not the new Icon. All I can tell is the horn is 60x90 vs 90x90. Not sure how much of a difference that would make, seems 90x90 would be better. Would the KC-10 center be OK with the KF-30 or should I upgrade to the KC-25. How close does the center speaker have to match the front?

There are 2 black friday sales, one at HH Greg selling KF-30 and one at BestBuy selling KF-28, both selling 50% off. I can't find any info on the differences except that they are sold at different stores. The klipsch website doesn't even list the KF-30, so I am assuming it may be an old model for HH Greg to unload. Any insight to the differences would be much appreciated. About me: I just purchased a Denon 2312 to replace my old Sony gx808 with Sony speakers. Now I am in the market for floor front speakers + 1 center + 2 surround sound. I am not sure if I should get surround sound or bookshelf speakers for the back. One note, the back speakers face each other, i.e. side pointing, not pointing to the front. I like the way the way the bookshelf speakers, fuller range than the surround sound. Any insight on this dilema would be helpful also. Thanks. One more thing, most of my listening is blu-ray movies in 5.1. I also have 10" JBL sub that works well. Gene