Thanks Ivanhurd, that's good to know. I have been using the process of "buying on wait" to get my speakers. That is, I wait until I find what I want at a price I'm willing to pay. I've never tried negotiating with the big online retailers. My local big box store will negotiate some and while they do carry Klipsch speakers, however they do not carry the reference line. There is a smaller local dealer that does carry the reference line (that's where I got the RS-41 II's). I'll see what kind of price he'd be willing to make on the SW-115.