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    RF-7II Owners Thread

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    Not sure of the why, always has been. Run my subs at +10db hot too. Room is about 5300cuft. I do not find the towers and center to be offensive to my ears.

    Here is my data I built to track as I added the second sub:

    New db numbers for MLP (0.0 reference setting on AVR):

    Scene---1st VTF15---2nd in March---After pro cal and 90hz xover for flat response in room

    Transformers, city battle at end---111.0---113.0---116.3 (hwy batte right before yielded 117 smile.gif )

    Act of Valor, gun boat scene---109.8---111.8---114.6

    Iron Man 2, final battle---111.0---114.2---116.1

    Episode 1, pod race---110.8---114.5---115.8

    ok dillema in my head solved. If your running 10 db hot subs and listening at reference you should be seeing 125 db. So your numbers reflect more of 10 below reference which is TOTALLY different and EXACTLY where I listen at. Makes much more sense to me now :)

     

    117 db in a 5,300 cubic foot room is still no joke, although I'm curious about what frequency that is more than the total spl. I'd have a hard time believing that two $800 15's would do that at 20 hz in a room that size.

     

     

     

    No, they are much lower at 20hz. That is just overall db achieved during those scenes by the meter. That was my basis for comparison, how did each exact scene "improve" in spl with the changes. That is also measuring the WHOLE system running. Only changes were the subs though in those measurements, I just think it is cool my system hits 115db during a cool movie scene, but that is from my car audio days LOL. Also, the big bass hits in those scenes are what drove the db's up, not the fronts/center sounds.

    What is your % of RF-7II use (HT vs 2 Channel Music)

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    I use them primarily for theater because I enjoy the extra punch and growl.  I have a set of THX's sitting beside them but I don't like how they don't dig very deep, I don't like to rely on the subs for things that towers should be able to reproduce.  RF-7ii's get you that "big" sound better compared to THX in my opinion.  Full range full-auto gunshots on RF-7ii's is silly fun.  

    WOW, so you run the 7's on full range, not small and 40 or 60?

    RF-7II Owners Thread

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    Posted · Edited by gadgtfreek

    Not sure of the why, always has been. Run my subs at +10db hot too. Room is about 5300cuft. I do not find the towers and center to be offensive to my ears.

     

    Here is my data I built to track as I added the second sub:

     

     

    New db numbers for MLP (0.0 reference setting on AVR):

    Scene---1st VTF15---2nd in March---After pro cal and 90hz xover for flat response in room

    Transformers, city battle at end---111.0---113.0---116.3 (hwy batte right before yielded 117 smile.gif )
    Act of Valor, gun boat scene---109.8---111.8---114.6
    Iron Man 2, final battle---111.0---114.2---116.1
    Episode 1, pod race---110.8---114.5---115.8

    RF-7II Owners Thread

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     It does put my mind at ease when using the Outlaw amp knowing I wont ever clip with it as my ears would bleed before that would happen. So I do have a tendency to turn the volume up a little more with the Outlaw.

     

     

    That is part of it too, I agree. We watch blu-rays between -2.0db and +2.0db on the Denon, so it is pushing good.

    Just ordered some RF7II's, a 64II, an amp/preamp and a sub!

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    Posted · Edited by gadgtfreek

    Did you get the RF 7ii and the Outlaw 7500 yet? That really will sound great. My 7125 has plenty of power, that 7500 is going to make those 7ii sing! I play 2 channel out of Oppo 103 and I still grin at the sound coming out of those speakers. Good stuff man.

     

    The 7125 was actually my first amp, got a cheap one (used) and loved it on my current speakers (It actually puts out about 140w/channel all channels driven too!). I then decided to try out the XPA-3, which has been great. My end game was always a big boy outlaw and RF7ii's, so I finally got em on the way. My 7500 will be here Friday, and I'll just be waiting on my speaker.

    RF-7II Owners Thread

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    R7-II owners. I am curious to what equipment are being used to push/run these great speakers. Are you owners mainly home theater receivers with the speakers Or do you have an integrated or preamplifier/amplifier combination. I am also curious if any owners have tube components?

     

    I was AVR only up until 2 years ago and always felt there should be more clarity running reference volumes during movies. I tried out an Outlaw 7125 pushing my RF82ii's and RC62ii's, and really felt at high volumes the amp just left the AVR behind. Sure, the speakers are efficient but I have seen knowledgeable folks discuss transients during musical stuff and heavy action scenes, and the power helps. Speaker X may only normally need 50w, but it could peak a lot higher depending on the music or scene. I also know some claim there is an ohm drop on some of the Klipsch models, but I can't speak to that. I'm sold as far as having an amp goes, but I dont think everyone needs one. 

     

    One thing I dislike about AVS is most there just jump all over you about getting an amp in amp threads, and you hear how a Klipsch speaker only needs 20w to hit "X" spl when they find out that is the speaker you have. I personally haven't experienced that result, and I tend to be very honest about audio and video improvements. I have no issue bashing a product either.

     

    Long story short, I will always have an amp if I can, which is why I "upgraded" to an Outlaw 7500 (about 240w/channel all channels driven at rated distortion) to run the RF7ii's I am getting. Other issue with AVR's, the more channels you drive, the less wattage they output. I like a good AVR with XT32 and dual sub eq for the preamp, and then an actual amp for the speakers. YMMV.

     

    Another key to the amp, with big towers, is I intend on running the RF7ii's at 60hz, not 80. More power/headroom the better. One of the defenses for crossing speakers at 80hz is it protects the AVR and leaves more headroom. Get the right amp and it doesnt matter what you do. Finally, and most importantly, amps arent in everyone's budget.

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