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Makes sense.
I guess the hard part is seeing such a large tower with dual 10's crossed at 80 hz. Makes you wonder what the 10's are for! Or is the large part of the 7 sound over the other models the larger horn and the 10's just add more cone to cover the sounds the horn isnt?
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Well, the Outlaw 7500 I have coming should run about 240w to each speaker at it's rated distortion. So Im thinking I am in a situation to run the xover lower.
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Thats the deal I took (4520ci new for $999) recently. Also agree on the center. I went thru those growing pains when I first bought my reference ii line speakers. Center is a most important speaker in the set.
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Actually, for $1500, a nice AVR with pre outs and a XPA-5 would be a nice combo
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Crossover question.
My first thought is to run the 7ii's set on "small" in the Denon and 60hz. I would think they could do 60 fine and I will have an amp with plenty of power. That will send everything below 60 to the subs for those two channels. I'm guessing 45hz would be too aggressive? Just wondering what you guys are using.
I currently run the 82ii's and 62ii center at 80hz but an audio calibrator had recommended even the 82ii's on 60hz and small.
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I'm an audyssey guy so my pick would be the X4100 (2015) with XT32 and dual sub eq. The X4000, 2014's model was nice as well and can be found for discounts while supplies last.
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Subbing now that the new toys will arrive tomorrow.
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Highly recommend Chad B if you start looking into pro's. I used to own my own meters but it was just time consuming...
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Interstellar.
What a great movie and the score was intense. Already bought it and watched it again...
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We do have a very similar setup.
Speaker wise they will be the same once I am done, same amp, different AVR as preamp, same power conditioner and I have a 103D LOL.
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Update. RF7ii's will be here Tuesday. Got a deal as well on an Outlaw Model 7500.
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OP, Great decision on the 7's and 64 (future purchase) I pretty much have a similar setup as you. (minus dual subs which i want and will get soon). Emo makes great gear but as you pointed out, it's not really even close for price/performance ratio. The ATI 2005 is around $2600 so grabbing the same amp under the outlaw name is a no brainer at $1599. Despite what some may say, when you go to the 7's, they love power! There are some impedance dips that most AVR's can't handle (not saying yours can't) but the headroom is unbelievable. Trust me, I've been there and done that
Great input, thanks. I missed a used 7700 Outlaw today on ebay ($1200) because I was travelling...
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Here is my thing. A new speaker model, like and amp, is not necessarily guaranteed a good result with a "redesign". What I know for a fact is, I like my ref ii speakers, and the 7ii and 64ii have been raved about for years. I will buy them, discount or not, and move on. The premier "redesign" which may include new big boys may or may not be an "improvement". Once again, "improvement" with horns is in the eye of the beholder. Some would want them more mellow, some not. I am happy with the current sound.
In my eyes, once I have the 7ii and 64ii, along with what I already have, I hope to never buy speakers again, at least not for a long time.
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I found it best to run my VTF15's at +10db over what XT32 sets them at. Confirmed with Chad B and a good mic.
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And see for me, watching blu-rays between -1.0 and +1.0 mostly, I know we are pushing. If anything, I like the idea of headroom.
Interstellar is a good example of something recently. Most scenes I am sure were not too bad, but the action scenes with the crazy organs going on, I'd image the peaks are pretty good in those scenes. Even worse if you were running 60 or 40hz ont he fronts.
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Yeah, I have always used small and 80hz for the 82ii's and 62ii. I will keep the center at 80hz because it only goes down to 57hz, but the 7ii's will be set at small and 60hz for sure. No reason to have two 15" subs and run my fronts in full range.
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Well, you already know what to expect from Outlaw (assuming the 7500 is same sound as the 7125) so if it were me, I'd look around for used Emo amp and if you prefer the Outlaw (or Denon) then you could resell it and not take a big hit. Some dont like buying used though.
Depending on the $$$ next week (bonus), I will either trade in the XPA-3 for an XPA-5 ($620), or sell the XPA-3 outright and buy the 7500 (probably cost $1000). All in all, Id rather have the outlaw, I'm just a fan of their ATI built gear. It's not a knock on Emo, just we all have our preferences
Or, I may just sit on the bonus for a few weeks and grab the 7500 anyways. I have some more amp reading to do. Im really under no pressure to sell the XPA-3 anyways.
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Hadn't planned on it. The 5 channels amps I am looking at our for future expansion, and it was part of the plan anyways. In my reading most seemed to suggest against bi amping so I have not really messed with it.
Taking the Outlaw 7500 for example, it is pushing 240w/channel at 0.1% distortion, while being rated at 200w/channel at 0.05%. Thats a ton of juice and it has two transformers so there is plenty in reserve. Just figured Id hook em up straight and save the other channels for later.
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Yeah, that is the Denon 4520ci. It is a hoss too, but I am just sold on amps, even with the Klipsch. That first outlaw 125w one drew me in.
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Wow, I have the Outlaw 7125 and it sounds awesome with my RF 7ii. I think Emo will also deliver awesome sound but I've never actually heard an Emo.
That is the first amp I owned and I loved it. One reason why the 7500 is also on my list of targets.
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Thanks. I always avoided 80 because of THX thinking and power concerns. Once I bought an amp the feeling was you should be able too. I just never played with it on the 82ii's. I figure I should at least try on the 7ii's.
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Yeah, it took me a few weeks to get current towers right. Spacing was tough too, too far out and it was just weird. Def toed in toward MLP sounded best. I also find I liked them setup somewhat equidistant. I think my towers are 8.5 feet apart, and 10.5 feet from MLP. Will start the same with the 7ii's.
Evidently, one request from Gen 1 to Gen 2 was for Emotiva to lower the gain. Since doing that, the hiss is gone from what I've read.
Another nice Amp, at about $1599 (up from $999 for XPA-5) is the Outlaw 7500. I still havent ruled it out, you can get a b stock for $1479. It is a hoss, and I will have to decide in the next week or two which one I want. I owned an Outlaw once, and I love them, so it'll be a tough decision.
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I found mine like room to breathe in all directions. Best was about 18" from back and side walls, but I moves to 12" side and back walls to conserve space in family room. Once I finish HT build, they'll move out in open more.
Let me know how the XPA5 you're getting works with the 7ii's. I'm still mulling over xpa2 for my rf7 fronts and another for my rears.
Never heard an Emo set up... But always read great reviews! Will stay tuned for your thoughts!
It was nice to see the 82ii's and 7ii's are the same depth, the 7ii's are just a little more wide and a good clip taller. Mine of course are toed in now, but I have about 11" from the wall. With those dual subs sticking out farther, I could probably get away with another inch or two off.
I have been happy with the XPA-3 and the 82ii's, so I think the XPA-5 will do a good job. I think their generation 1 amps had some hiss with Klipsch, but the gen 2 I have is quiet.
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RF-7II Owners Thread
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Cool deal. I will stay at 80. A lot of that makes sense and explains why everyone enjoys them over the 82. More cone space means more air moved. As the xover rolls off below 80 the dual 10's are going to handle that better than dual 8's.
Can't wait to hear them next weekend.