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Well, it seems that the general consensus is the same, bi-amping or buying separate amps is not going to do anything for me. I live in an apartment, and I really don't get into high volumes much. Most of the time, I watch movies at moderate levels and music at low to moderate levels. I was hoping that by upping my power with an outboard amp that I would hear cleaner, crisper sound, and more detail, but, looks like i'm probably going to get the best out of these speakers with what I have, so, i'll leave it at that. Cant really afford the RF7's, let alone the Paladium. About the only thing I could do to improve my sound would be to try and listen to some Polk RTiA speakers (not sure if that's an upgrade), or work on getting some auditions of some of these online only stores (BIC America, Axiom, etc..). But there again, im not sure if those would be upgrades, downgrades, or just an equal move. I like the Klipsch because the horn tweeter gives me that detail and vividness I want out of a set of speakers that will not cost an arm and a leg. I had a set of Infinity Primus speakers, which sounded too warm. Years ago I had some Paradigm Monitor 9's that, from what I can remember, sounded really good. Ive listened to some of the Polk TSx speakers at Frys, and comparing them to the Infinity, they were much brighter and more detailed, but, when I went back a second time to listen, they didn't sound quite as good anymore. I've not heard any of the online speakers such as BIC, Axiom, HTD, I hear they are good. The thing about all of these speakers is that they almost always use a dome tweeter, which is fine, but generally not as detailed. Years ago, when I bought my paradigm speakers, I could have bought Klipsch, but I didn't want them because I had always heard the sound was harsh and "tinny", and I didn't want that. Now, after listening to them in my home, I like the bright sound. I like the detail that it gives. When watching movies, when glass breaks, I want to hear the "tinkle" as it hits the floor, other subtle details come out because of the horn tweeter as well. I do wish the mids were a little bit more warm, but, that may be because of how I have my sub set up. I have everything crossed over at 80Hz, and my sub is behind my seating area, which, is possible that it is creating a null that i'm not hearing the full range of audio below 80Hz. When I had my paradigms, I had a paradigm sub at the front of the room, a front firing sub and I liked the sound of it, but due to being in an apartment, and trying to find the best place for my sub, people suggested that I put the sub behind me so i'd get more of the near field bass. I wonder though, is near field bass a good thing or a bad thing? In reading, it appears that bass sound waves are longer than other frequencies, so, having bass that close, would it not cause the audio to reach my ears before the sound has fully "matured"? In other words, would it be better to have the sub further away than closer? Such as putting it on the front wall? I did my sub crawl and, according to what I heard, I got the best bass from the wall behind me, near the corner. But corner bass tends to be "boomy" and not accurate, correct? This would explain why a lot of times, when I play music, my bass sounds "one notey". Also, when I did my sub crawl it was with a Yamaha AVR, which, from what I understand, YPAO does not do bass equalization. Since then, I've gotten a Denon AVR, which Audyssey does do bass equalization. Maybe it's time I do the sub crawl again. Anyway, I do have another question. I've been considering getting a Klipsch SW115. Front firing sub, heard it at Frys in their presentation room just a little. Sounded good, but didn't really listen a lot. Right now I have an outlaw audio LFM1 +, which is downfiring 12" dual port tunable sub. Sounds great as well. Has good bass extension, but again, due to placement, I think im missing out on some frequencies. With 1 port plugged in max extension mode, it is rated down to 18Hz, however, seems like in the really low freq's, the sound drops out, like it doesn't have enough umph to get down there...again, probably due to placement. When testing my sub with the Bass Mechanic test program running from my iPhone, test tones down to 25-28Hz seemed to be audible, but dropping down toward 20Hz seemed to be more "felt' than heard. I could hear the dishes in my cabinet, and other things in my apartment rattling, but didn't really hear much of the bass. Does anyone have suggestions or any experience with the Klipsch subs vs the outlaw subs? I'm considering getting a second outlaw to place in another area to get better bass response, but am also considering either replacing it with another sub (possibly Klipsch), or just adding another sub to the outlaw I already have. I've not heard any of the other sub manufacturers (axiom, SVS, Lava) so I don't know how they sound, and im not sure if mixing subs of two different brands is a good idea. Anyway, in a single sub room, between Klipsch and outlaw, what are your thoughts? man, sorry this was so long....

Interesting you bring that up. I had considered buying a 5 channel amp and using the Denon pre outs (until at some point I can get a pre/pro), but after doing some posting and reading over at AVS forum, most everyone there agrees that, more power doesn't make a speaker sound better, it just makes it louder, and that in order to get better sound, you need to upgrade to a higher end speaker, but more power will not do anything but increase volume. Thoughts? speaking of seperates, if I were to ever go seperates, what do I need? Is it just a matter of buying 5 monoblocks, or a 5/7 channel amp block, and then getting a processor? Is the pre amp part of the processor or is it a separate piece? Some people say just use the preamp from your AVR and that will be good.

I'm curious if this is a good idea. I had some paradigm speakers years ago that I had bi - amped and they sounded good, they were hooked up to a Yamaha AVR. I now have RF82II's as my LF/RF speakers hooked to a denon. I was told awhile ago that there is no need to bi-amp the RF82II's due to the fact that the crossover in the speaker was set at something like 1400Hz and that, if bi-amped, you cannot set the crossover on the AVR that high, most AVR crossovers only go up to about 250Hz, and there would be no reason, or it wouldn't be good or beneficial to bi-amp the RF82II's. I was wondering if this line of thought holds merit, or should I be bi-amping. thanks

Meaning, harmful to the speakers or the avr

I have a tendency to put in some music at night, usually ambient or classical. Set the volume down around -35dB and I'll fall asleep and let the music play all night. I'm curious if this is harmful? I have rf82 II's in the front, rc52 center and rb61 for surround, outlaw audio lfm1+ for sub, running off of a Yamaha rx-v871 Any thoughts?