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Correct. I think i'm going to ditch the K04's and go with a sub.

In the end, if I need to spend a little more to get what I want then so be it. If you have an example of what will work please send me a link! 4,000 is INSANE how about under 500? Is it possible to run an amp between the denon and the 2 K04's?

A different direction would be sell the KG's to a friend, keep your 1513 and take that additional money and apply them to a set of Forte's or Chorus. This makes the most sense and in the long run I know you would be glad you did it. I could never sell the K04's they have sentimental value . However it's looking more and more likely that I will have to go the powered sub route. I just can't believe I cannot find an amp that will power these K04's. It's gotten to the point that I would do just about anything for a modern amp with HDMI switching that could properly push these K04's! Again, thank you everyone for your help and patience. I never thought finding a proper amp would be so difficult. I'd be happy to pay for an amplifier that would do what I needed. The problem i'm finding is that it doesn't exist anymore

so the denon AVR-E300 specs deliver 175 watts max per channel, however I can't find anything that shows a distortion level at .1 or below.

Am I correct in saying that the 7.1 amps deliver more power than the 5.1? Can you show me an example? I'd like to keep it under $300

Thanks for the help everyone. I've bought both my receivers from accessories for less, I figured for my simple setup in the basement I didn't need anything crazy. My problem is, i'm a data guy and really have limited knowledge on these new amps. Do you have any suggestions as to what will be better?

With that being said, should I get a 7.1 receiver just for the higher power output? Should I get another E300? Or get this Onkyo HT-R791 Power Output - Front L/R 130 W/Channel (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 1%, 1 channel driven, FTC) Center 130 W (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 1%, 1 channel driven, FTC) Surround L/R 130 W/Channel (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 1%, 1 channel driven, FTC) Surround Back L/R 130 W/Channel (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 1%, 1 channel driven, FTC) Dynamic Power (front) 180 W (3 ohms) 160 W (4 ohms) 100 W (8 ohms)

Did you use a tone control when you set the bass for +6? Don't use virtual onscreen sliders, or they will turn Audyssey off. Make sure the Audyssey light is still on when you have finished all adjustments. Audyssey and other auto-EQs try to remove room peaks, and many people get used to peaky bass, and value it. IMO, the solution is to replace the peaky bass with a gradual, but smooth, bass rise, so that the bottom end of the curve is higher than the top. Some research (Harmon?) has indicated that most people like the bottom of the bass to be 10 dB higher than the top of the treble, and they perceive it as "flat," even though it's not. I achieved that here by running Audyssey, then turning up the sub by a few dB, and also using a tone control (not a virtual slider) to boost the LF and RF bass by 6 dB. As far as the plane landing, etc., if you decide to use a "sub out" to feed a sub, a great deal of the energy of the plane landing will, as LFE, be sent directly to the sub, and the power -- or the lack of it -- from your AVR won't be a factor. The 1513 doesn't have audyseey feature. It didn't come with the microphone Could this be the issue? AVR-1513 Power Output; Watts Per Channel 75 AVR-E300 Power Output 75 W (20 Hz - 20 kHz, 0.08% THD @ 8 ohms) per channel 120 W (1 kHz, 0.7% THD @ 6 ohms) per channel 175 W (max power output) per channel

Yea, the bass was all the way up +6 and treble +2 Then I took my Denon AVR-E300 from upstairs and plugged it in down here. It delivers a little more power than the 1513, so i'm thinking I need to return the 1513 and get something else.

When I power the speakers off the Sony, all is back to normal. The sony is a old STR-D965. I've tried multiple sources HDMI, RCA, Component, all with the same weak results on the Denon. I'm assuming this amp just isn't powerful enough, i've messed with settings for a while and nothing makes a significant difference. I think it's time to return the Denon, any suggestions on a replacement?

I still have the sony, however, the reason I got the Denon is that I needed HDMI switching. The Sony is so old it doesn't have HDMI

Correct. I've had these in our family for a long time. I just don't understand why it seems to just not have enough power to push these...i'm stumped <iframe src="https://onedrive.live.com/embed?cid=8481A0AAB9D47F34&resid=8481A0AAB9D47F34%215715&authkey=AP0RzNT4kCKFe_4" width="320" height="240" frameborder="0" scrolling="no"></iframe>

I have some Klipsch KG4 WO RV speakers coming off a Denon AVR-1513 amp. I have 2 rear speakers in the ceiling, once center in the wall, and the 2 Klipsch. I'm not getting anywhere near the bass I was getting off my old sony amp. I have set the Klipsch speakers to large and turned the subwoofer to off. Does anybody have any ideas on how I can get the wall shaking bass I know these speakers are capable of? I've kept these speakers for so long because on my old setup when a plane landed or something on a movie you could literally feel it. I love these speakers and don't want to give them up for a sub with a pre out. any help would be greatly appreciated.