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Now why on earth would you want to cover up such a drop-dead gorgeous horn such as the 402? LOL! It doesn't matter if you put a masterpiece painting in front of the 402, the proportions of it compared to the bass cabinet are all wrong, aesthetically speaking.

Yeah, it's hilarious. I read something about it the other day, California mandating fluorescent bulbs. Only problem is, they have also outlawed the disposal of fluorescent bulbs! LOL!

Travis, I think Dr. Who is talking about all the recording engineers who have taught him everything he knows, that they are deaf.

PWK was the first to admit that his hearing had considerably deteriorated as he grew old. From a Klipsch speaker owner's point of view, the Klipschorn was designed when PWK had his hearing intact, while the Jubilee was designed well after his hearing had suffered. You really can't tell how someone with bad hearing is going to judge something. I remember many years ago when I was a teenager A-B'ing a couple of tapes of the same performance to my dad. The "A" tape was excellent and "B" had such reduced treble that it was a joke. My dad picked "B" as superior though. His hearing had been damaged from decades in an auto factory.

The black "fiberglass" horn that PWK had in his own home, the horn that still is on top of the Jubilee that Miss Valerie has--I wonder why nobody talks about it? It's got more pleasing lines than the 402 or the 510. It's fairly similar in size to the "wooden" prototype. Once covered up, the aesthetics would be more pleasing than covering up either of the other two horns.

Excellent catch, Anarchist. So the thing that George got was the photograph that we've all seen and he didn't see the demo of the three Jubilees at all. That makes sense.

In January 2001, this was posted here: George emphasizes a wooden horn. So what gives?

Challenging enough that you haven't answered my question (of course I already know the answer to it) even though I've asked it repeatedly.

All right! Finally, some useful info. But you know what? They weren't 402s, were they? And I wasn't even there. Were they like the one Miss Valerie has in her home?

Since any FREAKING horn will do, per Bad Cowboy, I propose:

I love facts and I love opinions. You're still not answering the question. What Dean is getting isn't the issue.

Okay, to summarize your take on this, Bad Cowboy, and do correct me if I'm wrong: Since I have pointed out that the 402 looks bad and was not designed for a living room and was not envisioned by PWK for the home Jubilee, that means I'm envious of anyone who has a Jubilee and that I do not want anyone to be happy. Is that about right?

Since you didn't address the performance issue, I'm going to take that as you admitting that you are not a careful reader and were just blowing smoke. Do you think the bastardized version looks the same as the one PWK posed with? Do you think PWK thought anyone would be crazy enough to want a 402 in his living room? Even the Mad Cowboy didn't think he'd sell any. Turns out, he underestimated the number of people who can be talked into having "the best." The AES paper is all about the bass cabinet. The completed Jubilee home version does not exist. It went to prototype. Bean counters said the wooden horn was too expensive. That's why people are using different top configurations and why you are going to run through dozens of combinations and never be satisfied. Sure as God makes little green apples, PWK did not intend a 402 for the home. since you've been talking to pwk here recently (i assume that that's how you know all that you that paul would and wouldn't like), can you ask him where he left my slide rule? have a blessed day, roy delgado I gotta give you credit for obscuring simple issues--I guess that's what you're trying to do? PWK didn't intend the 402 for the home, did he Bad Cowboy? I know it doesn't matter to you--any old freaking horn will do, so you say--but humor me anyway. The "naked horn" you reference wasn't the 402, now was it?

I don't know about "serious" but it sure is revealing.

Miss Valerie with a Jubilee prototype. Photo by PWK. It'd be nice to know what horn was in this one. Or maybe there wasn't one and it was just to show what could be done for the appearance.

I asked Jim Dickinson about that and he acted like where did I get that idea from? Jim said PWK had three Jubilees like that that were fully functional and he used them in a presentation, but I don't remember where he said the presentation was.

Oh, I see. I've hardly addressed the sonics of the Jubilee. I mean I could do a pretty fair job, but since I haven't actually heard one . . . I guess I could read the spec sheet like Dr. Who and the Bad Cowboy. Most of what I have been discussing re the Jubilee is the aesthetics of the "bastardized" version. While we're at it, the K-510 looks bad too, unless you plan to cover it.

The theater version looks darned near identical, don't it?

Very well said. The true home Jubilee will never happen, and you can take that to the bank. Even if they could sell a hundred pairs of them a year, Klipsch would not be interested. This is based on my questioning Fred Klipsch about it at Indy. I think he outranks the Bad Cowboy. If not, I'm sure the latter will pop up with a correction.

You nailed it, great job. Enjoy the Mart.

What, I'm not allowed to take a break for a few minutes?

I've got to say that the level of argument here is extraordinarily pathetic. When someone says the 402 was not designed for home use, that is then twisted into claiming the Jubilee was not meant for home use. And several of you don't know the difference between facts, opinions, and sales patter. Anyway, my three incontrovertible statements still stand. I realize it's tempting to argue about something else, but I'm paying attention.

Since you didn't address the performance issue, I'm going to take that as you admitting that you are not a careful reader and were just blowing smoke. Do you think the bastardized version looks the same as the one PWK posed with? Do you think PWK thought anyone would be crazy enough to want a 402 in his living room? Even the Mad Cowboy didn't think he'd sell any. Turns out, he underestimated the number of people who can be talked into having "the best." The AES paper is all about the bass cabinet. The completed Jubilee home version does not exist. It went to prototype. Bean counters said the wooden horn was too expensive. That's why people are using different top configurations and why you are going to run through dozens of combinations and never be satisfied. Sure as God makes little green apples, PWK did not intend a 402 for the home.

Are you fantasizing again? Who criticized the performance of the Jubilee?

This statement of Andy's from years ago also confirms what I posted in the now-locked thread. The Bad Cowboy seemed to deny it, though. 1. The Klipschorn is a more difficult(ie., expensive in materials and labor) bass bin to manufacture than the bass bin of the proposed home-version of the Jubilee is...from what I have seen(and YES...I gave the Jubilee bass bin a close "builder's eye-view" scrutiny when I saw them...): matchpoint, Jubilee!