I have the RP 280F's and really love 'em. I've had them for a month, so I'm still breaking them in, but they sounded great right out of the box. I have a sub available, but I ended up moving it to the bedroom system. These do not require a sub unless you have to have chuffing, knock the pictures off the wall bass. For stereo listening, these give a LOT of bang for the buck. Crisp highs, clear mids, and bass, while I wouldn't call it massive, is quite abundant and clear. I listen to jazz, classical, and mostly, 60's and 70's rock. Best speaker choice I've ever made.