Thoriated_Tiger

I've yet to blow up tube gear. Even with the volume past 11. Belive it or not, tube gear is VERY tough. Ask any guitar player worth his salt. They treat their gear like crap. And any guiter player worth his salt relies on tubes for tone. That's more than I can say about crap mid-fi gear form the 80's..killed a couple of Carvers and a couple of Technics. Boom. Dead. Smoke got out, no workie no more. My amp is 50 years old or so, has had one upgrade, and will strip paint off walls ------------------ --- Klipsch SF2 Thorens TD145 / AT440ML turntable Dynaco Stereo 70 power Sansui CA-2000 pre Pioneer RT707 tapedeck Pioneer 4100 cd player

You answered my post about my SF2's, I'll answer yours about hollow-state electronics. Like you, I like metal. Particularly 80's metal..and 70's..and Zep..Ozzy...Sabbath...Megadeth.. And I like it loud, in my face. Guess what. Tubes will do that, provided one has hi-efficiency speakers :biggrin The two coupled together deliver a sound that's very unlike SS and cones n' domes. It IS brutal, if the music is brutal. Bass galore, seductive mids, and a treble that will have you grinning. Wanna have Bonzo blast your skin off? 3 watts an 99db speakers will do it :biggrin I've tried both ways. The only thing I've not tried is planars and stats. As the poster above mentioned, it's a whole diffrent ballgame. I've driven my unk's Belles with pushpull 300B's. A whopping 18 or so watts. Never used all of 'em. Right now driving SF2's with a Dynaco Stereo 70, an ultralinear EL34 tube amp. 35 watts per channel. Again, I barely use two of those watts..four, tops. Finicky? Hardly. All the maintenance I do is check the bias once a month..and dust it..if I even remember.. Try it. You may find the results quite appealing..with metal, jazz, or anything else..even Art of Noise ------------------ --- Klipsch SF2 Thorens TD145 / AT440ML turntable Dynaco Stereo 70 power Sansui CA-2000 pre Pioneer RT707 tapedeck Pioneer 4100 cd player

Hehehe. No ocean view. Just a muddy lake I dunno WTF it was. THey sound *FINE* today! It may have been the phase of the moon. It may hgave been my mood. It may have been.... that I didn't face Hope, AR and chant the magic words.. All I konw is tonight I'm in bliss I did drop the bias from 50ma to 45ma.. heared that russian EL34's ain't too happy at the customary 50ma. Did it help? NO idea With tubes, I wouldn't call horns aggressive. I call 'em..revealing ------------------ --- Klipsch SF2 Thorens TD145 / AT440ML turntable Dynaco Stereo 70 power Sansui CA-2000 pre Pioneer RT707 tapedeck Pioneer 4100 cd player

quote: Originally posted by Seb: the glass door could be a problem. I auditioned the RF-7s at a dealer where two of the room's boundaries were glass, they were pretty bright, but at another, in the same kind of room size, but without the glass, they sounded much better, less edgy. Hmmm... I'm kinda hoping that's not really it. Most of my apt has vast expanses of glass... Come to think of it. the dealer's room had a glass back wall, and there wasn't any unpleasantnes... either they need breakin, or something is horked in my amp...i'll check bias when i get home. ------------------ --- Klipsch SF2 Thorens TD145 / AT440ML turntable Dynaco Stereo 70 power Sansui CA-2000 pre Pioneer RT707 tapedeck Pioneer 4100 cd player

quote: Originally posted by BobG: The HF driver, being horn loaded, moves very little. My experience is that it takes between 100-200 hours for the sound to settle in to its long term state. Yow. Thanks! FWIW, on the dealer's setup (yamahammer SS receiver) they were very nice even at 105db. Wonder if the glass door to the left of the room is rearing its ugly head now that I have some decent HF drivers Dont get me wrong, this is not bad-sounding, just a little hard-edged.. *sigh*. Y'know, it *could* be I'm used to very polite cone n' dome, i've had the infis for 12 years. Real horns in a real concert *are* kinda tough on the ears ------------------ --- Klipsch SF2 Thorens TD145 / AT440ML turntable Dynaco Stereo 70 power Sansui CA-2000 pre Pioneer RT707 tapedeck Pioneer 4100 cd player

Howdy, all... Got a pair of SF2's Tuesday. They are being powered by a relatively stock Dynaco Stereo 70 with a Sansui CA2000 pre. Quite a non-harsh setup. Problem is, at ~90db's or more, the sound becomes objectionable, but not entirely. *sigh* how to explain. It's not harsh. It's not distorted. It is, however, disturbing. Instruments like trumpet, trombones and alto sax become almost painful. And that's just at 90db! On Infinity's Polycell, this very same setup was TOO polite. I've never heared a Klipsch sound like this, specially not on tubes! I spent a LOT of time listening to an uncle's Belles in the 80's. I know the K sound So my question is.. how long for things to mellow out? They have maybe a whopping eight hours on' em right now. (is it just me, or overall, is the SF2 quite the little performer?! I've heared some B&W and Tannoy offerings, small standmounts, that leave me feeling like . These little SF2's sound MUCH bigger than they are.. not as big as 'scalas or Khorns, but quite big ) ------------------ --- Klipsch SF2 Thorens TD145 / AT440ML turntable Dynaco Stereo 70 power Sansui CA-2000 pre Pioneer RT707 tapedeck Pioneer 4100 cd player

quote: Originally posted by maxg: Welcome on board the Klipsch band-wagon. Thank god you didnt go for the KHorns - that would have destroyed your Miata for sure! Warning : Addiction can follow your first purchase. you already found the RF3's - wait till you hear the 5s and 7s, then there is the Heritage range.... Its a world of trouble - especialy for tube owners - nothing gets driven by tubes like a Horn! Heheh. Yeah. Actually, had I the room *and* cash to fit K-Horns, I would. The few times I've heared 'em, they are utterly unforgettable. I *may* upgrade the SF2's to RF3 within this year. Time and budget will tell. The SF2 are doing a terrific job in my rather smallish listening room. I couldn't ask for more.. And yes, it is a slippery slope. I grew on tubes and horns -- to me, anything else is...well... uh... not 'right'. ------------------ --- Klipsch SF2 Thorens TD145 / AT440ML turntable Dynaco Stereo 70 power Sansui CA-2000 pre Pioneer RT707 tapedeck Pioneer 4100 cd player

I find compression horns in general (not just K, I'm a huge Altec-Lansing A-series fan ) excel at large orchestral. And small orchestral. Aw hell, they excel at everything There is SO much to be explored. Vinyl for me is a cheap way to do so. In the calssical world, I started with a little Mozart, and it just slid downhill from there... it's dangerous... addictive.. And so wonderful. ------------------ --- Klipsch SF2 Thorens TD145 / AT440ML turntable Dynaco Stereo 70 power Sansui CA-2000 pre Pioneer RT707 tapedeck Pioneer 4100 cd player

Last night I brought home a pair of SF2s. Getting 'em home in a Miata was an interesting excersie in and of itself..one in the shotgun seat, one on top of the top's folded stack, lashed with zip cord speaker wire Anyway, I grew up with cheap horns (Realistic Mach Ones, radioashack) and with an uncle's Belles. I had almost forgotten how detailed and dynamic horns are They're powered by a Dynaco Stereo 70, mostly stock but with a BIG power filter capacitor upgrade, a Sansui CA-2000 preamp, and fed mainly from a Thorens 145 with an audiotechnica 440ML MM cart. Hardly audiophile, but damn, the whole thing with the SF2s sound SO much better than Lowther The Infinity SM112 wallbangers these SF2s replaced will go back to HT duty. Begone, vamoose! Away from my tubes! Damn, but they're good. Budget constraints prevented getting the RF3's, but I don't feel I lost much in getting the SF2s vs the RF3's. ------------------ --- Klipsch SF2 Thorens TD145 / AT440ML turntable Dynaco Stereo 70 power Sansui CA-2000 pre Pioneer RT707 tapedeck Pioneer 4100 cd player