SimonK

Yes i am also out! Thank you - have a nice day gentlemen!

Who says i am running Atmos? You just assumed that i am. I did not say anything about it and i also did not post a Atmos speaker. *Hint* No thanks i don't have anymore questions. Thanks you for your help and your time! Have a great day

No i don't have that worked out at all. Did i miss anyone answering that question. carlthess40 did kind of answer that but then i had open questions about it. XD yes i get that The major thing i learned in this discussion is - that 100db is crazy loud. I actually never thought about it that much. I understand why distance is a big issues as it causes additional problems with cabeling and of course reduces the pressure over distance -significantly! Here is an actual article about that http://www.sengpielaudio.com/calculator-SoundAndDistance.htm My equipment would probably die 5 min after i got deaf at the 12 feet distance i am listening, but still my question remains. Would the tweeter die at 114.99db /1m/1f in a biamping scenario or in other words the point at which the amp would exceed the 50W limit. I am curious about that now. The biamping is just very confusing for me in general. I probably have to do the math on that to understand it. But the crossover in the speakers does not per say have a voltage/current regulator/limiter right? Well as always thanks for your time

Hello, Thank you all so much for your effort! Much appreciated! Btw.: Love your humor Hmmm well i did know the calculations for that but i actually must admit that i am not sure at what level i am listening. There isn't really a dB scale on any of my devices that would tell me that. I am just a little scared that i at some point just blow the entire thing. Id just wanted to understand what happens if i push it to the limit. How does the biamp work now? Can i just connect the Tweeter to one amp without having to far that i blow it? Do i not have to put in another crossover or something in between? Anything else to worry about? All this "don't under-power you speakers" discussion got me very worried. I understand that this all matters only at crazy high sound levels. Thanks guys

Well thanks for the quick answer. which crossover? The crossover of the speakers? How is it regulating power? If that where the case overpowering a speaker and clipping issues would not be a problem at all, because the speaker would simply not permit more power in than it can handle. That is not the case for any speaker as far as i am aware. If you look at the BIAmping page by Klipsch it says you should connect 150W to the Woofers and 50W for the Tweeter. The woofer actually does not get the 50W that the Tweeter has to much because it is on a different amt. The max would be 150W then right? I would only let the Woofer take full advantage of the 100W amp right? But as there is nothing that would limit the power between the speaker and the amp the tweeter would start to die at about 114.99db at which point the avr would start to push in more the 50W. Is that assumption right? Sorry you are probably going to lough a this point Well actually isnt dynamic headroom playing louder then your loud current average value? The Dynamic headroom difference should be only 1.13% in dB between 105W and 150W - not factoring in peak here. Great analogy - but i got that I would kindly ask for some numbers here this does all sound like a little bit of hearsay and guesswork - sorry no offense. But i was reading such answers all weekend long. I am not really interested if it is adequate or not. I am trying to understand at which point it gets inadequate. Because it is going to be inadequate at some point. But at which point is that? even a 10W amp should still output 108dB right? How big of a clipping is that going to cause for this amp? And how much is THD going to cause additional issues here? https://www.allaboutcircuits.com/technical-articles/the-importance-of-total-harmonic-distortion/ Thanks! Cheers, Simon

Hello, i have a couple of questions someone hopefully can answer. 1. How much Power do i need for a 5.1 Set with 2x 280f, 1x 450c and 2x 250s? The Sw 115 should not count here - right? - the amp should have at least 80% of the continuous lost for the speakers. - twice the power of the speakers? - a little bit more then the speakers? - or it does not matter at all because klipsch is so efficient? i heard about everything of these answers. I bought a Denon x3400H for another set of speakers and i did not like those, so i ended up with the Klipsch set described above and i am not sure if the AVR does it for that. It has 105W at 8Ohm at 70 efficiency which then should be probably something about 73.5W right? But it has 600W total so actually if you connect a 7.x system it would be 60W per channel -do i understand that correctly? A Sensitivity level of 98db/watt/m with 73.5 Watt am should give me 116.66 dB or is it 105W then it would be 118.21db? I just dont understand what the continuous power rating on the speakers has to do with all this! Is this output somehow lessened by some resistance because they are 150W rated? If i would buy a Yamaha 3070 with 150WPC then it should only output very little more - 119.76db . Am i calculating this correctly? So what is the downside of a less powerful amp? That it starts to clip at some point? Is it clipping at a different point with a 100W speaker then for a 150W speaker? I am assuming the distortion factor is here a factor. Is it going to be fine if i set my AVR to 0db and go crazy with the volume? How big is the distortion factor going to be at that level. 0.08% as sated in the manual or higher? I understand that this is dependent on the input signal. 2. What if i set the AVR to Biamp would that not blow the tweeters very quickly? Because the AVR does not give me the option to regulate the output on the channels or the crossover. So i am assuming it is going to pump full power trough the tweeter or is this regulated dynamically by the receiver or internally by the crossover of the speakers? Sorry i am missing tons of information probably - hope you are patient with me Thank you very much for your time! Cheers, Simon