AndyV

Ok, I decided to give a second chance to 8000F + I bought 504C to replace 500C. Additionally, I purchased 4 Auralex LENRD Bass Traps. But this is just a temporary solution until my order with GIK is ready (2+ mo. yikes 😬)

As I might see, we have a similar listening space; the only difference is that I have a wider and bulkier TV stand. I'm considering 6000F only because I actually bought 8000F, but they arrived damaged, so I returned them but was able to try to fit them. Well... I guess I can say I squeezed them. I didn't like the look for my small space and visual aspect to me as important as SQ 504C makes sense, but as a next step since I'm not using the center for music "8000F — Big improvmen" — no arguing here "6000F — Good improvement" — The main question if it really makes enough sense? "600M — Also good improvement" — here I'm not so sure. But I guess I can try to buy them if not, use them as backs "External amp — Fair improvement" — I'd rather sell 8012 for around $2000 and go with 7705, which you can get now for $1700 + 5ch Monolith for $1500. But this is not even a third step ))) Now you see why I think that something smaller might work better in my case especially considering proper-ish placement vs. squeezing

Well, I tried, didn't like them, so I decided to stick to 5.1—5.2, and didn't regret Matching the rest speakers' sizes will be the next step; now, I want to focus on 2-ch

Yes, door on one side and windows the other.

As for the 600m, yes, I know, but this is a vacuum, and what about in comparison with 5000f (Dual 5.25 woofers in a larger cabinet vs. Single 6.5 woofer in a smaller cabinet)? or LS50, or 6000F or Focal Chora 826 (not sure I want to pay X2—X3 but size wise it's ok, these are very nice looking speakers + front port) Speakers should be forgiving to imperfect placement (6000f vs. 826); this is not relevant to 600m or LS50 (these I can place properly) that's why I'm here; I a little bit tired of doing experiments on my own ))) PS: I know what to expect from SVS 2000; in my previous larger apartment, I used to run dual SVS 3000, but the room was much-much larger and more echoey. I think single 2000 PRO should be enough

I actually bought them, but they arrived busted, and I wasn't able to test them. What was obvious, though, that 8000f are HUGE, and I'm not sure that I'm willing to give them a second chance. I can try to fit them, but I will not be able to put them away from the wall. And another important aspect to me (I care about room comfort and appearance) is that 8000 are too big for my room size-wise. That is why I was considering 6000f or bookshelves. As for 600m, the main if it makes any sense? 5000f — dual 5.25 woofers in a larger cabinet, vs. 600m — single 6.5 woofer in a smaller cabinet? I found this Steve Guttenberg's article (https://www.cnet.com/news/klipsch-rp-5000f-a-tower-speaker-to-be-reckoned-with/) where he indirectly compares 600m vs. 5000f, w/o clear conclusion though Also, I'm not comparing 600m with sub. vs. 5000f w/o, since I was using sub. with 5000f as well. And I already purchased a new SVS 2000 pro, so this should help no matter what option I'll pick. So I should compare 5000f + SVS 2000 Pro vs. everything else. And I'm not planning to buy a new AVR; I already have 8012; what I'm considering is to purchase an amp. But, honestly speaking, I think that new amp is way less important than other stuff. such as Room treatment (not my case) bass management (in progress) Fron speaker upgrade (the main question) The next things that might matter are Processor/DAC — I think 8012 have a decent one Source — I think mastering is more important than the source itself. And again, convenience is much more important than absolute quality. So my pic is music streaming (including Tidal), rather than CD or music download in best possible quality, plus I have Rega P3 turntable, but again, for the most part, it's streaming. And in the last place is amp/ pre-amp (again, only because 8012 has decent specs)

If you are interested in why I bought 8012 for the 5.1 system, well, I used to run a full Atmos system in my previous apartment with bounce speakers, and it was a carp. Also, I used to use Paradigm 800f with 500c as LCR, but my girlfriend didn't like it, so I went with a smaller 5000f. Now we broke up, and I decided to make a NY present for myself ))) Another example of a mistake I don't want to repeat is to upgrade secondary components for the untreated room. I used to have Anthem 325 AMP, and honestly speaking, I didn't hear a difference at all (even with Paradigm 800, which I was using at a time). But since then I moved to a new apartment, which is smaller, but acoustically wise it's better.

Heritage will not work for multiple reasons: 1) Size. It's much wider; I will not be able to place fit them correctly; I have a left wall and a doorway; I do not have enough width. Or they will make my room unlivable, so I need to find a balance 2) Much higher price tier (X2—X8 for the Heresy IV); 3) Considering #1, and #2, will be a waste of money That is why I'm considering bookshelves speakers or front ported towers. That is why I'm considering bookshelves speakers, or front ported towers, or keeping 5000f. Upgrading speakers for the sake of upgrade itself is not the way. I believe that room treatment, front speakers, and bass management are the most important parts of the equation. I can't do anything with the room beyond what I did, and it's far from perfect. I will work on bass management (not sure if I'm willing to add a second sub, though. First, I need to play with SVS 2000 Pro when I get it). So, the last part is the speakers. And I don't want to overpay for speakers that might not work (I'm pretty sure will not) at their full potential.

Hi everyone, I'm currently using 5000F+500C as LRC and 500M as rear speakers. Plus, I have an R-100SW sub. Everything connected to Marantz 8012 AVR. I've been using this setup for two years and now thinking of upgrading it, focusing mainly on music improvement. The first thing I did I bought an SVS 2000 Pro to replace R-100SW. I was thinking about 8000F, but they are way too HUGE and will not with my room. Plus, I don't have much room to move them far enough from the wall. 10 in is as far as I can go. That's why I'm considering 6000F, but not sure this will be a noticeable upgrade, and they are still much deeper than 5000F, so the same issue — moving them away from my wall. Another option I'm considering is front ported speakers — Focal Chora 826 which are in completely different price range but I still can get them for $1600. So, I thought, why not go a different route with bookshelves speakers where I'll have more placement flexibility. I'm considering two possible options: 600M and LS50 (Non metas, which I can get now for $800ish). As a third option, stick to 5000f and spend money on 2ch amplifier, such as Parasound A23+ or Emotiva XPA-2 Gen 3. I don't have a dedicated listening room; it's open space 12 ft. x 12 ft with 9 ft ceilings (it's actually asymmetric 12x22 ish if I count kitchen and the additional area I don't care about) I don't have any special room treatments but soft furniture, heavy curtains, and a carpet. So my room is kind of echoey, and my couch is close to the back wall. I know it's faaaar from perfect, but I'm intended to keep it as preserving a living aspect of the living room ) That is why one of the options is stick to 5000f since it might make no sense upgrading them for imperfect room and focus on base management and front speakers placement So, what do you think? PS: the scale is most likely not entirely correct