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Hi, I remember similar for me. For speaker level, after running Audyssey (75 db for sub), I adjusted the individual speaker to same level by manual hearing (didn't even use mobile app which is also fairly ok) sitting at main listening position. However, adjustments were minor by few dbs up and down. Since you have db meter, it will be more precise. Good luck.

Hi, My system is RF62II, RC62II, RS42II, SW112, Onkyo TXNR 929, Marantz PM 8005, Marantz CD Player 6005. I also experienced similar issue. Especially this was true for some male voices. I don't know exact reason, but strongly believe it is due cabinet resonances, floor reflections, subwoofer integration. After running Audyssey calibrations, i made the following changes, 1) XO at 100HZ to remove lower frequencies (still some go to center at 12db/octave) and diverted to subwoofer, other speakers set at 100Hz, LPF for LFE at 80Hz, Subwoofer knob at 80 Hz (was not worried about hole between 120 to 80Hz) to get non-directional sound from subwoofer. I find anything above 80Hz becomes directional and doesn't integrate with Mains properly, unless placed next to fronts. 2) In Manual Equalizer, I changed 63Hz at -6db, 2.5kHz at +2db, 16kHz at -2 db. Rest all at 0db. This is for all the speakers. I found changing 63Hz near to 0 db in manual equalizer makes sound muddy (think due to subwoofer integration) even if sub volume turned down hence reduced to -6db. I find the +6db boost given during calibration for subwoofer (75 db for sub and 69 db for mains) evens out -6db for 63Hz set in manual equalizer and gives flat response for the frequencies intended for mains. Alternatively, we can run mains crossed over at 40Hz (and 63Hz at 0 db) but i didn't do as it will tax the mains. 3) Speaker levels for all speakers set at same level (no bumping for center). 4) AVR played with Audyssey OFF, Dynamic Eq ON, Manual Eq ON, Dynamic volume on LIGHT. 5) While watching, remove the grill as these are very thick, lay carpet on the front. 6) Last but not least, have put rubber mat (yoga mat cut to size, thick enough which touches the bottom surface of speaker after placing the speaker) at the bottom. This, I feel has very good dampening for the entire surface than four rubber feet. All these are for my room responses and configurations, but find the above may be useful for others. With the above changes, I find the vocals have improved dramatically (very intelligent now) and also no more sounding boxy and harsh / sibilance at highs. Sound stage is a bit wider too. Further tweaking may or may not make it better, but decided that it’s enough. May be you can with above as starting point, maneuver, and also decrease the crossover to get bigger (cinematic) sound from mains until the tin can sound does not repeat. Eventually, I changed the crossover as 60Hz for center, and 80Hz (Fronts being bigger in size, is now timber matching with this setting for seamless front stage) for Fronts and Surrounds which I found even better. Good Luck.

Hi, My system is RF62II, RC62II, RS42II, SW112, Onkyo TXNR 929, Marantz PM 8005, Marantz CD Player 6005. I also experienced similar issue. Especially this was true for some male voices. I don't know exact reason, but strongly believe it is due cabinet resonances, floor reflections, subwoofer integration. Seeing frequency response, with AVR (Onkyo TXNR 929) I did the following after running Audyssey. Initially, 1) XO at 100HZ to remove lower frequencies (still some go to center at 12db/octave) and diverted to subwoofer, other speakers set at 100Hz, LPF for LFE at 80Hz, Subwoofer knob at 80 Hz (was not worried about hole between 120 to 80Hz) to get non-directional sound from subwoofer. I find anything above 80Hz becomes directional and doesn't integrate with mains properly, unless it is placed next to mains. 2) In Manual Equalizer, I changed 63Hz at -6db, 2.5kHz at +2db, 16kHz at -2 db. Rest all at 0db. This is for all the speakers. I found changing 63Hz near to 0 db in manual equalizer makes sound muddy (think due to subwoofer integration) even if sub volume turned down hence reduced to -6db. I find the +6db boost given during calibration for subwoofer (75 db for sub and 69 db for mains) evens out -6db for 63Hz set in manual equalizer and gives flat response for the frequencies intended for mains. Alternatively, we can run mains crossed over at 40Hz (and 63Hz at 0 db) but i didn't do because it will tax the mains. 3) Speaker levels for all speakers set at same level (no bumping for center). 4) AVR played with Audyssey OFF, Dynamic Eq ON, Manual Eq ON, Dynamic volume on LIGHT. 5) While watching, remove the grill as these are very thick, lay carpet on the front. 6) Last but not least, have put rubber mat (yoga mat cut to size, thick enough which touches the bottom surface of speaker after placing the speaker) at the bottom. This, I feel has very good dampening for the entire surface than four rubber feet. All these are for my room responses and configurations, but find the above may be useful for others. With the above changes, I find the vocals have improved dramatically (very intelligent now) and also no more sounding boxy and harsh / sibilance at highs. Sound stage is a bit wider too. Further tweaking may or may not make it better, but decided that it’s enough. May be you can with above as starting point, maneuver, and also decrease the crossover to get bigger (cinematic) sound from mains until the tin can sound does not repeat. Eventually, I changed the crossover as 60Hz for center, and 80Hz (Fronts being bigger in size, is now timber matching with this setting for seamless front stage) for Fronts and Surrounds which I found even better. Good Luck.