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---------------- On 2/4/2003 2:58:49 PM Hugh Jardon wrote: Hi All! It looks like the Klipsch vs. Rocket is still going on here! Great to see. I believe on of the reasons the thread got closed is that some Rocket lovers did resort to name calling, the mods just happened to delete the posts before closing the thread. I hate to say that I may have been the reason for the thread closing as I reported the thread to the mods after the deleted name calling started. I did have posts in the thread under my name, Alex Prosak. I'm sorry if I ruined the fun over there but I do think things were about to get very nasty. Alex/Hugh ---------------- The thread is still there and it's fully intact, warts and all. No deletions were made before the lock. In internet time, it's all ancient history now. BTW Hugh Jardon, do you happen to know Heywood Jablomi?

---------------- On 2/3/2003 9:55:25 PM avman wrote: let avman chime in on the subject of avs... i 'signed up' about 4 yrs. ago,when i was trying to get hd via satellite. very informed people and great suggestions..HOWEVER-i have been banned from avs because people on the forum were talking about buying a REALLY hot projector from Japan, with all the return for warranty concerns, and i made contact w/a # of those individuals to let them know that i could give them a better deal WITH a U.S. warranty, AND i would check for dead/stuck pixels. just trying to help out fellow bb'ers who had helped me.i am NOT commisioned, and replaced my existing pj with the sony vpl-hs10,so i was enthusiastic about about other people getting a better deal. WAY to much to go into, but -especially concerning this topic-the moderaters were like the 'Geshtapo' concerning posts about this pj-probably because they didn't have a sponser who sold it.anyway i got banned, and i think they have gotten too big for their britches. there are alot of great and informed people who post there, so i would encourage ?'s to be asked there.just be advised that those who run avs (in my opinion) have lost sight of the purpose of the sight. i have so much to ask and offer, yet i can no longer ask or answer ?'s there. btw-this is the place i call HOME avman. ---------------- They might have banned you because of this: http://commerce.idmi.net/ecommerce/product_categories.asp?CID=115&key=avscience It's easy to forget this but AVS is a storefront, first and foremost. (In fact I didn't even know that until I'd been posting there for about a year!) The forums were put in place just as an afterthought to support what they sell. (At least that's how it was at first, maybe not so much anymore.) They might have been upset because you were directly competing with their own products and services. I'm surprised you weren't told why you were banned though.

Howdy, Noz. Nice rig you have there!

---------------- On 2/2/2003 2:10:33 PM Gordon Groff wrote: I wish I had stumbled onto this thread earlier! I like the AVS forum and have noticed the strong Rocket fan base over there. When I began my speaker search not too long ago, I had a desire to hear them for myself. Alas, as a right-coaster, not too many Rocket systems around here for me to check out. After my audition at a Tweeters where Klipsch KILLED all others (up to and including Sonus Faber) to my (and my wife's) ears, I wrote Rockets off, figuring they may be great compared to "normal" types of speakers, but also assumed they would fall into the grouping as the Viennas and Sonus Fabers that I heard. After reading some of the posts on the thread at AVS from experienced Klipsch'ers that BECAME Rocket fans, my desire to at least audition Rockets has been re-kindled. There were claims made there that the Rockets produced all the detail of the Klipsch. I really have to hear that to believe it, but if so, I want to know it!!!! Anyway, that thread did more to boost the Rocket line than to bash it from what I read. Made me want to look at 'em again. It's a shame the moderator killed it. Y'all were perfect gentlemen over there! I think it's when some of the posts over HERE came to light that they got PO'd. Kinda fun, anyway! Gordon ---------------- Gordon, I think I can save you a little time. The Rockets are much more like the other cone and dome speakers you compared the Klipsch's to than they are like the Klipsch's. If in your opinion the Klipsch's KILLED the Vienna's and Sonus Fabers Tweeter had laying around, then you sir are a Klipschead. My advice would be to go forth and enjoy!

---------------- On 1/30/2003 1:30:12 AM michael hurd wrote: Big wally : can you post the picture of the back of the rf3 driver ? I'm curious as to what the plastic basket looks like. Do you also have pictures of the interior and / or crossover ? Thanks. ---------------- I have just two high resolution shots. One is of the speaker with the bass driver pulled out and on this one you can see the basket pretty well, and some of the interior cabinet. The other is a close up of the back of the magnet/motor assembly. I don't have any shots of the x-over though. If you PM your e-mail address to me I'll send them over to you. They're fairly large files.

---------------- On 1/30/2003 1:25:04 AM michael hurd wrote: Who really cares where the drivers are made ? Does being made in germany, denmark or the u.s. really matter to people, if the performance is top notch ? I think that this is more of a prestige thing, usually used for bragging rights. ---------------- I agree.

---------------- On 1/29/2003 11:01:35 PM DALE WALKER wrote: I hope to hell "ANDY " is not reading this thread. The whole mexico thing could result in the longest and most insulting post in klipsch forum history . ---------------- Too new to know who Andy is, but I have a picture I took some time ago of the back of an RF-3 driver with it's "Assembled In Mexico" label. Not sure if I'm allowed to post it here though, might be too sensitive of an issue. I could e-mail it to you if you like. Just about everyone is doing this stuff these days to stay competitive. Another example, most people think Axiom loudspeakers are completely made in Canada but I have pictures of Axiom drivers with "Made In China" labels on them as well. It's just the tip of an iceberg, what really comes from where would surprise most people. The world is getting smaller everyday.

You're a good man, mOOn. If I could do that beer stein thing I'd do it right back atcha!

Call me crazy, but I don't think Hugh Jardon is that guy's real name.

---------------- On 1/29/2003 9:13:05 PM m00n wrote: bigwally, TinHere We were simply looking out for one of our own whom apparently got chastized by you guys. We were not harsh, we were gentlemen in our conduct. It was all in fun anyway. ---------------- 1. Worthy of your defense? http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=218839 2. Yes, you were gentlemen...over there. 3. Trolling is always fun for one side, but there are reasons one should avoid it. Besides being a self-degrading and tasteless form of entertainment, one might get caught! I actually do suspect that you, and most others here, are better than this. Few people in this world obsess over recordings and audio equipment like we do, so I hate to see these forums play out like who's got the biggest d!ck all the time instead of being places of common interest and comraderie.

Hi guys, let's go get those Rocketeers! I'm so excited I'm about to download in my pants!