Taylorshop

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Guy, Yes, the Telefunken is the quietest and is what I currently have installed. My pre use the 6X4 tubes

Hi Craig, I know the volume on the power amps is not really a preamp, but I was just using the term from the service manual for the first 12AX7. Calvin

Hi Guy, Yes, I have tube rolled trying to get the best overall sound and quietness. I even called Quicksilver, and the person on the other end, told me that my Quicksilver pre was not a good match for Khorns; but I finally found the right tubes to reduce the noise a bit. Anyway, I had my wife sit center stage as I swapped the inputs from the preamp directly to the Macs and she agreed that the soundstage seem to be larger without the Quicksilver pre. (The amps were powered off during the swaps and restarted.) I agree, the Quicksilver is a quality product, but to my ears, it seem to be a bit lean. I'll try another A/B test to check myself. I really would like to keep it because it is tube and has a phono section. Calvin

Thanks Jim, A passive preamp is a great idea. Calvin

Hi Guy & Gals, I would like to know your thoughts on using a seperate preamp with old Mac tube amps. I am using a set of MC-30s and they sound better without a seperate preamp. Would using a seperate preamp amplify/condition the signal twice. The pre I used is a Quicksilver fullfuntion tube preamp. Do you think using a different tube pre would improve anything. Speakers are '84 Khorns. Thanks, Calvin

Colin First of all thanks for the infomation and advice. It seem everything still points to 2A3 amps. Secondly, let me be the first to say "DOLLARS" really matters in my household, for my hobby! My Citation XX amp (92lbs) is really a very good amp, so it's here to stay. So that don't leave a lot of room (money) to invest in a better tube pre and tube amp(s). So, some of the vintage stuff my be my better option. Once I get everything worked out with the K-horns, then I will know exactly what to do for my Cornwalls I in rear.

Pete, I will try other interconnects, but I really think it is the preamp alone. Also, when I rub my hand on the metal case, I can hear a lot of feedback (tube ring) through the speakers. I still like power, so I will research push-pull amps that use the 2A3 tubes. I see a lot of folks are using vintage Scott equipment; is the older stuff quiter that the new stuff?

Thanks, I research both models. Also, how do you like the 1050? I'm not sure if it will work with khorns in a HT system. Calvin

Thanks Danny, I can tell the SS pre is out of the question. I like jazz and mellow vocals. But I am try to incorporate HT in my system as well. So I need a little power up front as well. I don't know if I will be able to pull this off with one system, but I'm gonna try. I would like to keep the price down as much as possible because I still need a surround processor. Calvin

Pete, Thanks for the info! I checked out your system; WOW!!! Is it important that a SET amp be used with the Khorns vs a regular tube amp? In speaking with the Quicksilver folks concerning my noisy pre; they told me that basically all tube preamps would be a little noisy and and the same for tube power amps. That why that built their tube horn amp; it's suppose to have less gain. Calvin

What tube preamp match well with Klipschorns; or should I be going the other way and use a SS pre and tube power amp(s)? If so, what tube power amp is a good match with the khorns (Quicksilver horn amps?). I'm trying to get rid of as much noise as possible. I'm currently using a Quicksilver fullfunction tube preamp, but it's a little too noisy and I'm using a Citation XX SS poweramp. Thanks

Hi Everyone, I was wondering if there's anyone in San Francisco, who would like to rent or loan their K-horns boxes for a shipment. Thanks Taylorshop