hot damn, three fast replies, at 4am EST? cripes. anyway, i really dig my friend's 4.1s. surround sound rocks, but i don't think i'd listen to cds with four sats playing. i'd only like 2 channels going for music. ARG what to do??? i figured out that it will only cost me about $70 for new 4.1s with a 4 year warranty on them, after the difference on the 2.1s (which are only 6 weeks old and working like new) which i would sell on ebay. then there are those $90 stands from klipsch... crap.