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I am also new to 6.1 & 7.1 but I believe that the term you should look for is "discrete" channels meaning they all have there own unique channel. Check out the AVS forum www.avsforum.com for more info on which 6.1 are truely 6 discrete channels and not just matrixed rear surround to fill-in the sound I have a couple of DVD that I need to rewatch now that I have a 6.1/7.1 receiver and those have Dolby Digital DTS-ES which IS 6 discrete channels.

I am moving my RB15's to the rear surround positions after purchasing a 7.1 receiver. I am therefore looking for a pair of RB-25's (RB-35's too big for wife approval) preferably black to match the rest of my setup. They are $300 shipped online so was hoping to save some money as my wife cut my HT budget to zero so I have to scape up some cash Also have some older laptops that can use as trade (Dell Inspiron 3500, PII 400 etc)

According to your manual on P12 it says use SURR BACK L CH http://www.usa.denon.com/catalog/pdfs/avr2803%20DFU.pdf My Yamaha also says the same

I have a similar thread going. Klipsch says (see their FAQ) to use same as front center which is what other seem to also recommend along with possible using same as front mains, especially if you do 7.1 I just got a 7.1 receiver and if I was going with 6.1 I would get an RC25 but I am going 7.1 so will be moving the RB15's to the rear and getting new/used RB25's up front

I guess I should have also read Klipsch's own FAQ as they agree with using same as front center for rear center etc:- "What is the rear center channel for and what type of speaker should I use? The rear center channel is a recent extension of both Dolby Digital and DTS 5.1 processing, called EX and ES respectively. It is based on the same principle as the front center channel which is to "localize" sounds in the center of the soundstage or give them a distinct area they are appear to come from, filling in the sound gap between the left and right rear channels. Therefore, the same type of speaker used for the front center may be used for the rear center. Because of the need to "localize" the sound to the center, a monopole center channel speaker is usually the best choice. Some electronics offer the option of using TWO rear center speakers. What will sound best is dependent on the size of the room and what type of surround speakers you choose. WDST surrounds generally do not require the addition of a rear center, but adding one enhances the localization of events in the rear sound field. " Based on this plus your responses above and digging around the forum I think I am going to get some RB25 (or used RB35) and put them up front and move the RB15's to the rear center surround positions. Just need to find some good prices or used ones

Some extra info:- - Budget is limited as wife already "had a cow" when she saw that I spent over $1000 on speakers. Wanted to keep cost down below $300 if possible. - room is shared with the 2 very young kids so there is a low 3' high bookshelf along the front wall below screen with a regular TV on the shelf in one corner so RF's are out. - height of fronts and center is pretty much fixed due to projector screen and kids TV in corner. - if front speakers too big the aforementioned "cow" will probably get a brother/sister I noticed so far that you both agreed on regular front facing RF/RC speakers as opposed to the dispersion type RS for rear center surrounds, is there any main reason for this ? How about the height of these, would it not be better that they are closer to height of front center ? Would love to get bigger RF25/35 in front so may look to buy used.

I am in the process of upgrading all my HT components, the first step was to replace my old very cheap 5.1 speaker setup with the following:- Center - RC25 (3' high) Fronts - RB15 (6' high, 1' from side walls) Surrounds - RS25 (7' high, 3.5' from rear wall, 1' behind listening point) Room is 19' long and 15' wide and uses a projector with 84" wide screen. Screen width and windows on either side of screen meant placing front speakers very close to side walls. AV equipment is on shelves on back wall. This weekend I just received the new Yamaha RX-V1400 to replace my old Sony and wanted some advice on what setup would be best for the rear surround(s). I was wondering if the relatively small room could make use of 2 rear surrounds or whether it would be better to go with a single rear surround using another RC25. I did read through some posts and most people seem to agree in NOT using RS25 in the rear so what do you recommend ? 6.1 - single RC25 or something else 7.1 - 2 x RB15 7.1 - 2 x RB15 and upgrade fronts to RB25 (too much for this size room ?) Also, if I did use a single RC25 would it be better to mount it high up at same level as side surrounds or maybe at a lower level, say 4', similar to front center ? Thanks for any advice