Travis In Austin
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I cant' remember the name of the speakers right now, but I had a surround sound setup a couple of years ago that had cabinets that were flat black painted boxes, and they wrapped black stretchy grill cloth around them and had ties that gathered the socks up tight on the tops and bottoms of the cabinets. Then they had cherry, or piano black wood pieces on the tops and bottoms to cover the gathered cloth. It was a pretty slick way to build cabinets. They looked really nice and I could tell they were easy (read cheap) for the company to build.
Were they Vandersteens? They use a condom like approach on one of their speakers. Started with just offering black and then went to also offering some nice veeners.
Travis
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I would love to see some photos. Those sound very nice indeed.
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I'm just bored at work and doing some brain storming.
Please don't do that, every time you do that it costs me money. And please, please don't come to the conclusion that I need to buy a new house.
Thanks in advance.
Travis
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Chris, I could just as easily have been wrong about the flanges not having any affect. My gut told me that there would no audible affect so I went out on a limb.
Roy confirmed your gut. He said he designed them without out regard for a border or flange and he did not feel it would make any difference. However, I have been unable, thus far, to convince him to try it out on one of his "standards" in Hope and get measurements from the Chamber.
Travis
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THe Otari MX 5050 is a GREAT deck if it is in good shape. Is it in a counsel or free standing? Does it have seperate preamp equipment for each track?
If it says B II or B III it is a two (2) track high speed deck (7.5/15 Ips), but they also came with a 4th head as an option which will allow you to play 4 track stereo tapes back. There is also a switch above the heads to switch from 2 track playback to 4 track stereo playback. If it is says Q II or Q III it is a quad deck and not much use unless you want to set up a home studio and be able to record 4 tracks. The II and III indicated how recent a model.
Most prerecorded tapes from 1960 on are 4 track stereo tapes. That is 2 tracks in one direction, flip tape over (or reverse if it is a reversing deck) and play tape in other direction.
Professional recording and production, on the the other hand, is primarily 2 track stereo. Thus, the tape only plays in one direction. The only consumer prerecorded tapes that were 2 track were made prior to 1960 and just recently by the Tape Project.
The Orari will record and play in 2 track (one direction) and if it has the 4th head option, it will play (not record) 4 track stereo tapes.
If you are not interested in it and it has a 4 track play back head please let me know, as I would be very interested in it. If you can take and post some photos on here of the serial number placard with Model number, and the heads, I can tell you more about it.
If it is a big console (not free standing) with seperate electroincs above it you will probably want to pass on it.
What were you intending on using if for? Or was it just for giggles?
Travis
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I like the idea of painting the k402 horns, but another good idea, and one that would work better for my own WAF, would be to use stretchy grill cloth and make a "sock" that fits over the front of the horn and ties in the back. With the flanges off and the edges smoothed nicely, there wouldn't be a problem with the grill cloth tearing. Visually it would be a smaller horn with a simple black cloth that would be more acceptable in the average living room.
Greg
I'm waiting for your "Kit" on this.
TW
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Ole Benny (GRHS) has a million behind glass that you can get your photo taken with. I am told that this photo of this guy's system has about 1,000,000 worth of equipment.
Luther said the Jubilees were about 95 percent of these 130K speakers. We both agreed there is no way on earth, and way too many other things in life, to make it worth 122K for an extra 3 to 5 percent.
Thanks for the photo Luther
Travis
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please list your equip in profile, DWI man
Wait, ignore previous respone regarding equipment list, let me borrow a tip from an old pro:
Active bi-amp on big-er [new] horns with tubes on mid & highs (K69/402 Horn), s-s on bass bin! (DCR-KHJ)
Travis
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Let the record show that the defendant, a certain Travis McGee, did doth personifically declaim and place upon the record that he is firmly of the opinion that a largish sub is required to bring the Jubs to their penultimator height of achievement.
The State of Mind will upon rebuttal show without a doubt, and without using a single word of Latin, that a Jub is decidedly Jubilacious without the use of a sub. Indeed the State of Mind will move that the court issue a Restraining Order, barring a sub from being within 300 yards of a Jub.
Res Ipsa
No sub needed, expect for man made created sound effects from movies (LFE) They will handle any and all musical instruments.
Travis
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please list your equip in profile, DWI man
what other horns did you consider?
List my equipment? And leave a paper/e trail for my wife to follow, are you serious? You may not recall, she is Silcilian, very good at saving my money. I apply lipstick to my collar when I am about to purchase something just to throw her off track for awhile. (Yes, they really do sleep with one eye open).
I was either going to get Pallidums, or 3 LS's across the front with some sort of subs that Trey was telling me about, or B&W 802s I believe they were (about same price as Pallidums). The big issue on the whole deal was there was no corner for the right front speaker because I would have loved to put Anniv Khorns in there. Nor was their room to do a false wall.
I went to Hope in June of '07 to listen to them with Roy, he set them up in corners at first and them set them up how they would be configured in my room, there was very little difference between the two set ups. While I was there I saw a pair of prototype Pallidums which I was not supposed to see. As you may recall, they were not announced until Sept. of that year. Roy said that about all he could say was they were going to compete in the high end market with the likes of B&W, etc., was not sure on pricing, something like in the 20's etc.
After listening to the Jubes in Hope I placed an order for Jubes I wanted the raw plywood so I could have them painted with a piano laq. finish with a nice center veneer . I wanted the horns painted. Roy thought all of those things could be done and submitted it, however, it was a very busy time for Pro-Cinema and at some point in the chain they were nixed as being unable to accomodate. So I decided to wait until the Pallidums came out to see how they sounded because my wife would probaby prefer them over the jubes because of the looks even though they would be about twice as much.
When Klipsch formally anounced the Pallidums they indicated they would be on display at the home audio/theater installers show (CEDA?) in Denver. I sent Roy an email saying I was going to go listen to the Pallidums in Denver and asked if he was going to be at the show. He sent me an email back saying I should save my money because he was still waiting to finalize a driver, or port, or something, and he wasn't sure what was going to be in Denver but it wasn't going to be production Pallidums because he was still ironing out an issue. As it turns out they had a dummy pair at that show. So I woud inquire of Amy from time to time on the status, and there was not a lot of info available to her. Then I thought I would check them out at CES in Jan. of '08. As I recall I was told by Amy or someone that the P's were not ready at that point either and there would not be a set available to listen to is CES. I figured if they were not available at CES it was going to be awhile for them to come out. I read a couple of interviews about the Pallidums on the Klipsch Corner and after reading that and talking with Roy, Dean and some others I decided to go with the Jubes because Roy felt that he could go with exotic plywood. So I ordered them sometime in March or April of '08 I believe.
So that was the consideration involved in selecting them and what else was being considered.
Travis
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Top Notch!!!!
My 2nd Top Notch in as many months, only thing better than receiving one of those is a two word verdict.
Thanks JB
Travis
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I am in the process of building grilles for the bass bins. Next is building cabinets for the K402s.
Looking forward to seeing both of those additions Kudret.
Maybe you can share your grillle plans with Luther and I to give us an head start. Luther was originally thinging of drilling the plywood to use for some rare-earth mags to hold them on, but I think he said he is looking at another approach now.
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Wow Travis! Congratulations! Did you compare them to the speakers I sent you? The little green ones?
The ones you sent me are superior to the Jubes in every respect, save and except one-the size of the sweet spot on yours are slightly lacking, although the high end with yours is a bit more full bodied.
I will try and post some pictures of yours when we had them up running an A/B comparison with the Compirator I had on loan.
Travis
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Really Really beautiful Travis, enjoy them suckers. BTW, hows the port plugs working??? They are the cutest plugs I've seen.
Those port plugs are acoustically transparent acording to my wife, I figure if she knew that term it must be true.
Travis
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Never say neverRoy said he won't ever do another exotic plywood pair again
That is so true, however, I wanted people to know up front that it was a pretty strong NEVER so folks should know that going in. I tried to get Roy to do a matching 884 Pro Cinema Sub (aka, The Beast) and you should have heard the laughing on the other end.
I figure in about 5 to 10 years he will forget the headaches he had to go through and if he is caught in another moment of weakness will again agree to do some again.
Never say never, but timing IS EVERYTHING.
Travis
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Travis, do you mean this German company?
Heinz,
I beleive thos are the ones, they look very similar. I will get Luther to send me the guy's set up and I will post that photo. The one thing I remember is that they have Plasma tweeters, which I have never had the chance to hear, but am told that it is quite an experience.
Travis
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Looking marvelous - I am still working on my own set...I have a feeling that Thump will not be interested in doing any more exotics, am I right? I was thinking Bubinga...(just kidding)...
Uh it is Roy, or Blue Berry Boy, or BobCaw Boy that can help you with Jubes, I don't think Professor Thump has any involvement in Jubes, but I may be wrong on that. Roy said he won't ever do another exotic plywood pair again, but as a result they will now veneer the center front panel which was not an option before. I believe that there are a number of wood choices that are possible for that center panel, and if their vendor stocks Bubinga veneer then it would probaby be an option. Kudret was the first person to get his with the venner option and it came out very nice looking. I beleive there is a thread on it with photos, but I will try and post a photo here, unless Kudret beats be to it.
You should give Roy a call, you won't be sorry.
Travis
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You should consider cutting the flanges off the horns before you have them painted.
Greg
Hmmmm, now there is an idea, now sure how that would work, or how it would look, but smaller is the first thing that comes to mind. I will have to look into that, thanks for the suggestion
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Hey, where are the installed pictures?
Thanx, Russ
Finally took a break from listening and got some up Russ, thanks for asking.
Travis
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Last one for tonight
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As you can see, in HT mode it doesn't really matter what color they are or what they look like, and they are truly incredible in both HT mode and 2 CH.
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Another side view
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Side view as you walk into the room, this is why I got an exotic wood finish, the entire right side of the speaker is exposed when you walk in. The horse blanket will go after I get the right padding under the 402 base to protect the top of the bass bins.
New Jubilees (KHJ-DCR 001 and 002) Finally Set Up and Running!!!!
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Vandersteen Quatros. The black portion is a big black sock that is stretched across metal frame.