Travis In Austin

I haven't had to buy one in 20 years (maybe because I switched to Bosch, or maybe I was just lucky?). Has anyone been in the market recently? There is a great deal of range to the Bosch line now. I like the ultra-quiet top end, but reliability and dry quality is always a factor. Thanks in advance. Travis

@Schu Do you mind if I hide or lock this thread, it's attacking a lot of spam, wanted to see if you had strong feelings on it one way or the other. Travis

If you would like I can split this off into a separate thread and you may get more views and input on it

@Soulsanista there's your answer.

I have a lot of experience with medium format, but like a lot of things, decades ago, and in an all but gone format. The Fujifilm digitals you are looking at seem to have been well reviewed for many years, and their optics seem to be well regarded. Back in the day, 2 1/4 sq was the go to for portrait, landscape, nature (flowers & bugs) with a macro at 1:1 for life size images. You could crop and blow up to 16 x 20 easily, but we did some at 30 x 30, 30 x 40 cropped. Hasselblad for 2.25 square, and also some Mamiya RB67 (6 x 7) with 220 film. The difference between 35 and 120 was quite substantial. Shooting the same subject, equivalent 35 mm film focal length lens, the same film to get the the best quality 16 x 20 we had a 4 x 5 inter-negative made from the 35, then they would blow up the inter-negative, that made it acceptable, but many times 11 x 14 was the max whereas 16 x 20 was pretty easy with 2.25 sq, or 6x7. I messed around with a 4x5” view camera once, with a really nice Schneider lens, it was so much work. It’s just wasn’t worth the time and effort. If you need the bellows for field of view, architecture photos, the TS-tilt shift lenses got you close to that.

And they will grown on you from there. Liked that write up, been there.

@JohnA and @Woofers and Tweeters thanks for doing this. How is Gil coming along?

@OC71

No, I think one version or another will be there, along with the next wave of newest and best in Heritage. Klipsch Heritage Brand Ambassador, Mike Dyer will be teaching class with @Chief bonehead

Well that’s what the science says, probably at least 100 AES articles on it under the psychoacoustics section.

Here is link to thread you need. If you can send photos of labels we can help you.

Absolutely, designed by PWK to go up on wall close to ceiling, or below a TV

Welcome to the forum. Yeppers, can you attach a couple of photos of the labels?

That’s true, if you are able to hear and pick the difference in a controlled, blind test. PWK, Heyser, Toole all agree that measurements don’t tell you everything, but on evaluation of audio, sighted tests don’t tell you anything.

McIntosh MC901 single channel dual mono amplifier. 1 mono output is SS 600W for LF section, other output in s 300W valve for HF section. https://www.mcintoshlabs.com/products/amplifiers/MC901 “Vacuum tubes do not perform at their best when they are amplifying lower frequencies that are not being used by the loudspeaker. With the MC901, the vacuum tube amp will not be burdened with low end reproduction as the solid state section will drive these frequencies. The two amplifier sections of the MC901 are designed to work together in a synergistic relationship and are specifically engineered to assure that each section only amplifies its intended frequencies. Each amplifier section has its own discrete power supply so neither siphons power or performance away from the other. All of this results in easy bi-amping with unparalleled performance and sound reproduction from your speakers.”

If you have two good workable corners, you will obviously want to go with Khorns, let us know and we can tell you what to look for, it will depend on age. If you are looking at something else let us know and we can tell you what to look for on each model.

Berlin

Denver, CO Horizontal Khorns behind the bar (which was the first sound bar by the way, in the 50’s)

La Scalas in St. Petersburg, Fla.

Khorns in London

Heresy III inverted

Whitewater Tavern, Little Rock

What kind of bar? Have photos of area? The White Water Tavern in Little Rock has Heresy’s (they are rated one of the top Dive Bars in USA by Esquire). I have seen everything in commercial bars, restaurants, with some very creative arrangements. @bhendrix has a business partner he help set up his beer garden with Klipsch, but not Heritage due to size of venue need more portability and power handling.

My current and last laptop don’t have any 1/8” in/out, only USB or Bluetooth. I have tried going from 1/8 out on Desktop to input of the Klipsch powered speakers in the office. I do prefer the USB from desktop to speaker much more than Bluetooth for sure. Travis

This is an awesome thread, thanks for starting it. So since you are a stem teacher I will post some articles on A/B from AES (some science for a STEM teacher). With speakers it’s more difficult than components, because it near impossible to do a “blind comparison. For most people it’s going to have to be a sighted comparison. Studies (peer reviewed) on this show there is a sighted bias. However, it sounds like you going for a subjective personal preference, along with pointing out the subjective differences so it’s no big deal I wouldn’t think. The speakers need to be spl matched as the science is pretty clear that the average person (in blind tests) will nearly always prefer the louder speaker if not volume matched. I will post the studies on this and the YouTube videos where the author of the studies discusses them. I think the ideal is matched to within +/- 0.10 dB of each other. (That’s what Roy does for classes when they are comparing on speaker to another. PWK did A/B after doing all his curves and measurements. Just about any modification he was considering he would A/B after careful measurements. He would discuss this in Dope From Hope editions and @Chief bonehead Roy has a few stories about PWK teaching him to do the same thing. PWK personally studied many, many aspects of loudspeakers, and specifically, he studied whether they were audible, if audible were they “pleasing/preferred” vs. objectional/unsatisfying. He used the phrase “not a dime’s worth of difference” in describing what the results of certain changes were. I would join in the fun, but don’t have two sets of speakers to easily place sided by side at the moment, but will do so at the first opportunity. PWK would have loved this. Travis