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H/K receivers mate well with Klipsch speakers, as do Denon.

Just curious Paul, I'd be very interested to read the data supporting all of your claims. Very lofty indeed. Links would be nice. Merry Christmas to all, Carl.

We're talking about a $400.00 sub here. It's unrealistic to think that there won't be SOME compromises.

I originally wired my RC-7 and RF-7's with 14ga wire. After about a year, I thought that I would bi-wire as a cheap upgrade. After rechecking calibration (the same) and listening to some familiar CD's, I could hear no difference (even though I really wanted to). If your original wiring is too small, I could see how it might help however.

Using this logic as a basis for buying a sub would put pro-sound eqip (subs) in most HT's. Peavy and JBL would be all the rage. I'd say (from owning a Klipsch sub) that they are awesome for music and OK with movies. (RSW-15 and THX Ultra2 excluded as being great for BOTH).

That would be in room. Anechoic, flat to 20Hz, +-3dB. Your PCU should do better than that.

How about a "Death Star" sub? http://www.objectreality.co.uk/DeathStarPlans/

It seems like a while back I read some threads with some RSW 12 issues. It may have been amp problems. I used the search function to no avail, maybe someone with some first hand will chime in.

You mean 25 litres of displacement crazy? http://photobucket.com/albums/y290/cecaa850/ That's what cracks me up about these posts. If any sub should move the entire house , this one should, but that's not the case. People tend to get carried away when they hear a truly good sub and the house moving, slab cracking, wall crumbling, paint peeling posts come out. I'm sure the ep600 is a fine sub for the money, but I wouldn't fear for the integrity of my house unless I lived with Malabu Barbie.

WHOA, big room. You may need nearfield placement to get decent impact from a single sub in that room. As far as best placement goes, that depends on the room. Usually placing the sub in the listeners position, playng some good bass tracks and crawling around the room listening for the best response is a good place to start. Put the sub where it sounded best when you're done.

2 similar subs are easier to calibrate than 2 dissimilar ones. Split the signal on the back of your receiver with a Y and run a cable to each sub. The best place for a sub in a room can only be determined with an SPL meter, a test disc and your ears. The easiest place to put a sub in a room is to co-locate it with the first sub. You'll gain the most headroom that way and avoid cancellation issues. Non-colocation can help in difficult rooms but requires patience and some experimentation to get right.

Sounds like BestBuy did their typical job of setup again.

If they've taken the Reference sub up the same notch that they took the Synergy subs, they should be fine performers.

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That's a pretty big room for an RW-12. Buy as much sub as you can now to prevent upgriditis anytime soon.

That's 6675 cu. ft.!! Major woofage is required to pressurize that room. Dual PB12+2's would be a good starting point. However.................................they won't fit your budget. Of course virtually anything will be better than the Denon 8" that you have. I'd stick with my prev. recc. of the PB12ISD+2. Other than a DIY project, it's one of the best bang for the buck subs out there as far as SPL per dollar.

OUCH, my back hurts just thinking about that!

I absolutely agree with the Ear as far as what's needed in that room. The PB12+2 will bust your budget however at a delivered price of 13 to 1600.00 dollars. The PB12-ISD2 would come in at around a grand. Possibly an option.

Depending on finish, you'll pay nearly double for the THX sub's versus the PB12Ultra 2. IMO, you are not getting twice the sub. If price weren't an object, it may be another story. Both offerings are better than 99% of what's out there, so it's a win/win situation.

It would help to know what sub you're working on and exactly what part you are replacing.

In the $800.00 range for mostly music: SVS 25-31 PC+ HSU VTF-3 MK 2 Dayton Titanic 15" MK III (in no particular order)

Music shouldn't be a problem. It is one of Klipsch's best sub(s) effort to date. No idea on the price of the amp.

The SVS and RSW-15 are 2 different animals. The Klipsch would suit you better if you were primarily music as it hits hard in the range that is most commonly found in music. The SVS will dig lower and work better for the type if information typically found on todays movie DVD's. They are both very good subs and either will blend well with your current or future speakers. Overkill will not be an issue as long as you calibrate the sub when you set it up.

I can't think of a single sub in the 2-400 dollar range that will do 4800 cu. ft. justice. You need to up the budget or find a good used deal if you want "loud" in a room that size. You can also maximize your dollars by going the DIY route. A lesser sub will be overdriven keeping up with your mains.

How big is your room? How loud do you listen? How much do you want to spend? What percentage of use will be HT versus music?