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On 4/18/2005 10:06:40 PM tillmbil wrote:
Very interesting read. Codhead, I really like your style in that you never lost control and for that reason this thread has been very civil.
Set amps--just haven't bit on those yet. It does concern me when some of you say ignore the facts, figures and information from articles like those presented and go with your ears. Then we will turn around and say buy an amp because it has good specs. It seems the only amps that should be bought with a few parts with poor specs are set amps. Just an outsider's view.
I can tell you that the Yamaha M80's you mention at 90dbs have way more bass slam and over all sound quality than my newer 85wpc Yammie...go figure.
I prefer tubes to SS, and more watts to less...set amps aside. My MC240 sounded better than my St70, and my VRD's sound better than the MC240. As noted by all listeners/visitors. The visitors did have claim to musical knowledge,,,one Florida Orchestra Musician...one band member...and one wannabe band member. friends of course.
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Well, this one was all on style - Dean's got a pretty good handle on the substance side of things. He's probably better looking, so he'd always win if we were lawyers.
If SET amps were almost any other product, they'd be giving them away. Not exactly impressive from the spec side, but somehow they manage to sound pretty good despite themselves.
My M80's are nearing retirement age (in SS amp years). Think they were about the end of the line for the really well built Yamaha gear. They're currently in semi-retirement, waiting for an especially noisy neighbor to call them back to duty.
IMHO, the MC240 is about as classy as a tube amp gets. I've seen a couple of places that do beautiful restorations. That's the kind of industrial art that I could just stare at for hours on end. I like the new 275, but I can't understand why they put stickers on the transformer covers, and those big funny-looking rings around the output tube sockets.