Thanks for clarifying that for me. I always thought walnut was darker, but I am not a wood expert either. The question is are there any guidelines to pricing them? Say if there are no scratches but the speaker cloth on one of the speakers has some unnoticable discoloration and some water marks on the corner of the wood, but again is unoticeable not even an 1/8th of an inch. The speaker cloth is a light gold tweed and discloration blends so you can hardly tell. The water marks were from a drink spilled on the floor and ran over to the speaker and not noticed until the next day. But no damage was done to the wood itself.