I keep reading...do they have bass or not ? I bought a brand new pair from the factory in 1996. Bass...zip, nada,none. My KG4's blew them away in that department. What did they do well ? Dynamics, large vocal groups or instuments did not sound canned or homoginized. Do I love them, yes. Do I hate the lack of bass...yes. Go for broke and buy the Klipschorns !