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what does the 00 mean in relation to fortes or forte IIs? I've seed it before but I don't know what it means.
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Don't let these guys fool you. These speakers aren't worth the wood that surrounds them. Bring them to my place and I'll store them just opposite my equally worthless Walnut Forte's.[]
Seriously, If they are in as good condition as you claim, you should be able to get at least $500 for them.
You had me worried there until I got to your last sentence.
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Kind of a drag but an "acceptable" match should be possible given experience in staining/matching stains.
This is also what I thought when I started the journey.
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My gut feeling is they were using a different species of walnut back then as well.
I'm sure that woods all vary to some extent. I think it is very hard to match woods after 17 years or so.
The problem I have is that this cabinet maker told me that he could exactly match the woods, which he failed to do. I don't like surprises like this.
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Yes, Walnut changes color in the sunlight. It will become less grey/black and more red/brown with exposure to UV rays. I'm not certain how Klipsch gets their Walnut so brown from the get-go, but a few months in the sun can give you the same effect. I learned this when I was trying (and failing) to match some replacement Walnut edgebanding to the existing Walnut on my Belles. Everything I could find on the market looked way to grey, so I finally found a venner shop that gave me the answer I was looking for. A few months in the window exposed to direct sunlight, and I had a perfect match.
The cabinet maker also suggested this "sun" idea. I am not fond of placing my speakers in the sun at all.
The Klipsch wood has a definite reddish tint to it. The refinished speaker is more brown and darker.
Not to worry. All I have to do is wait about 10 years, if I live that long, and my speakers will match. I hope that, by then, my eyesight is still good enough to notice the matching speakers.
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Roc, Walnut changes color as it sits in the light and will get darker. Give it a few months.
Thanks.
See my previous post.
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You could always refinish all of your speakers...and then they'd all match perfectly []
You had to suggest this. This is exactly what the cabinet maker said to me upon discovering that the refinished speaker did not match.
He also said that in about 8 or 9 years the refinished speaker would begin to color match to the other ones. You know, like waiting for Godot. Right.
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Amen, EAR.
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.......after all, what are you saving your money for anyway?
It is better that you spend it rather than your heirs, who did not earn it.
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I am now in the "Hinky" camp.
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......along with an off axis response that doesn't get to hinky... Shawn
Hinky?
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Forget it.
First of all, why?
You don't have a chance.
TheEAR is, first of all, a millionaire. Secondly, if you have read him, he is committed to being the sub champ.
So, he has the desire and the money to fulfill his goal. If you have the same situation, then maybe you have a chance. If not, forget it.
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Right on,NOBODY will outo me,nobody. With all my commercial subs and now the TC Sounds ,Sound Splinter and RE Audio I will get...NOBODY competes. [6] And my 306lbs sub...it is a start....my next one will be over 500lbs. You kids watch out,and after...bigger.
All this in 800cu ft of space ! I am aproaching car like SPL ....and concentration of audio gear. []
This long weekend I will be building two subs....TC Sounds moving the air.Next weekend...abox for a 18" Sound Splinter...and go from there. In ONE year I will end up with at least 10-12 DIY subs added to my 29 commercial. Beat that...HA. [8-|]
Acting like a spoiled brat...it is fun.
It's good to hear that you're enjoying your money and keeping the economy moving at the same time. Seriously! Some people with money just sit on it and it does nobody any good, including themselves.
Money was made to be spent.
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Thanks for the article.
I don't want to live in China.
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Here is my story.
I am trying to achieve seven forte IIs in oiled walnut for a 7.1 system. I found a pair of black forte IIs for sale. I then checked with a cabinet maker who said that he could re-veneer the speakers into oiled walnut and could match my other oiled walnut speakers. So I bought the black speakers.
I guess you know what's coming next. I had the speakers refinished and I supplied the cabinet maker with one of my oiled walnut speakers for a good color and wood grain match. It took him five weeks to refinish the speakers. The result: The speakers do not match in color. The grain isn't too bad but the color is definitely off. Luckily I only needed one speaker refinished and I have placed it in the least prominent location in the room.
Moral of the story: Don't expect to match 17 year old speakers with new refinishing. It doesn't work all that well.
I still need two more forte II speakers. I will try to find oiled walnut speakers rather than buying some other finish and trying to refinish them.
I've learned my lesson.
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I will take them for free.
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I just love Austrailian talk.
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Unfortunately as I have traveled through life, most everything that I do, I wind up doing twice or sometimes three or more times before I get it right.
How many times you been married?
That's cute.
One time.
Coming up on 40 years in Novemebr.
The only thing in life that I got right the first time.
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.. well what is in hot dogs anyhow??
Yes I want to know too.
....And what is in Scrapple and Baloney?
Main Entry:
frank·furt·er
Variant(s):
or frank·furt f?rt
Function:
noun
Etymology:
German Frankfurter of Frankfurt, from <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />Frankfurt am Main, Germany
Date:
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a cured cooked sausage (as of beef or beef and pork) that may be skinless or stuffed in a casing
Scrapple
Main Entry:
scrap·ple
Function:
noun
Etymology:
diminutive of scrap
Date:
1852
a seasoned mixture of ground meat (as pork) and cornmeal set in a mold and served sliced and fried
bo·lo·gna
Variant(s):
also ba·lo·ney
Function:
noun
Etymology:
short for Bologna sausage, from Bologna, Italy
Date:
1596
a large smoked sausage of beef, veal, and pork; also : a sausage made (as of turkey) to resemble bologna
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I love you too Steve.
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Unfortunately as I have traveled through life, most everything that I do, I wind up doing twice or sometimes three or more times before I get it right. And this occurs eventhough I try to always measure twice and cut once.
That plan could wind up with a lot of pictures covering a lot of holes.
Lots of holes are good for Swiss Cheese but not for listening rooms.
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in Home Theater
Good analogy.
But I really don't like BMW people and cars at all. (this ought to cause a stir)
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Sometimes things have different values. Take my forte II's for example. To me they are worth $1000. I wouldn't sell them for less right now. Of course, there might be only 2 people in the US that would pay $1000 for my forte II's today.
I will give you $1001 for the pair.
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subs
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I started with a down firing sub. Didn't feel it projected very much bass. Didn't like it. I have a carpeted concrete floor. This might be a factor in my experience.
Now have two front firing subs and I like them a lot. Won't consider down firing again. Others and other applications might be OK with it.
Just my opinion.
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in Home Theater
Selling a JL Audio sub. tisk, tisk
What will they think of next?
Refinish a speaker - don't do it!
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Can't. Tanning salons are too dangerous. Can cause wood cancer if exposed too long.