Roc Rinaldi

You're right. It was too far to go & I'm not a gambler for shipping. It was just wishful thinking on my part. I feel like you guys are keeping me in mind so I just have to wait. It is comforting to know some others are aware in case more forte IIs show up. Believe me I am fluid (IE. cash in hand) and prepped. This rolling stone will gather no moss. Just so you know, the two oiled walnut forte IIs that I bought new in 1990 are also in mint condition. I don't think they have actually been touched by anyone since I got them. I dust them myself. Not one scratch or problem of any sort. They are just as they looked coming out of the box in 1990. I'm prepared to make some compromises because it is sort of unrealistic to expect to find 5 more like mine. But I won't object if I do. I'm a big boy and have certainly handled more disappointments than this in my life. ........................at least these went to someone named "oldtimer".

You're right dtel..........................................................as ....................................I.................................slowly................................................sink.........................................down............ .......................into...........................................my listening chair once again.!!

I sent an email to Mac requesting that he consider shipping them to me. He is a loong way from Maryland.

Thanks Jay.

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Coming to Baltimore any time soon? These forte IIs look mighty good. You know dtel & wife I am not going to give up until I get my 7 forte IIs in place.

Still trying to get pictures posted properly. Let's see if this one works. Yes, it is Roc & my wife of 39 years, Janet. What a find she was and she let's me buy audio gear at least once a decade !!! Still need 4 forte IIs in oiled walnut, mint or excellent condition, within 300 miles of Baltimore.

I really want to pick them up to avoid shipping damage and Alabama is just so far away. If you can give me his number or email address I can discuss it with him. ....and thanks for your help, I do appreciate it.

Doesn't anyone have any forte IIs for sale? I still need to find 4 of them in mint to excellent condition within 300 miles of Baltimore. Somebody please.

What is the wattage, weight & speaker size?

I can't believe that not one person is willing to sell their forte IIs. Come on forte II owners, there must be someone willing to sell.

OK now let's talk subwoofer placement in a 22 X 21 room. Everybody says something different. Dr HSU says a corner is good. JL Audio dealer says place it on the main speaker wall between the mains. Second choice in the corner on the main wall. David Griesinger (acoustical engineer) suggests a side wall mid-way down in his paper "Loudspeaker and listener positions for optimal low-frequency spatial reproduction in listening rooms". I do currenty have two subs but they are quite different and I am not sure that the second sub that I have will actually improve the sound. I have my new JL f 113 (2,500 rms watts) which, of course, is my main sub. I still have my old sub which is a Velodyne C-120 (130 rms watts). The f 113 goes down to either 19 hz or 16 hz depending on who you check with. The Velodyne goes down to 25 hz. If I only use my f 113 what would be my options on placement? 1st choice, 2nd choice, etc. If I try to use both subs what would be my options on placement? 1st choice, 2nd choice, etc. Come on EAR & Dr. Who I know you can help me on this. BTW, have you two ever heard the song "Why can't we be friends?" by War? I hope that you guys are friends in spite of your differences of opinion. It's OK to be passionate about your beliefs just keep it friendly.

I'm not a computer guy. How do I change the photo size and to what size do I change it?

Thanks Cal. You know it's a funny thing. I started with KG-4s as my first Klipschs. They sounded just great, so five months later I bought forte IIs. Then in comparing them side by side, all of a sudden the KG-4s seemed to pale by comparison, not bright enough in the high notes and mids. So what seemed just great five months ago then seemed a little bit weak compared to the forte IIs. Its just my ears I guess. Every day is a new opportunity. Maybe tomorrow, the forte IIs will show up for sale. I guess I have become fixated on them. Somewhere I read that the forte IIs were Paul Klipsch's last speaker that he was intimately involved in designing. I don't know if this is true or if that matters. My guess is that it does matter. Fortes and forte IIs seem to cause quite an interest among a lot of audio folks. Michael Colter, why doesn't Klipsch bring back the forte IIs? I would bet that the market demand is high enough to justify it. Oh well, just dreaming I guess.

Here tis.

EAR, I apologize for suggesting that you were wrong on the frequency number. My info. was directly from JL, so you can see why I thought you were wrong. Apparently they do provide conservative specs. They list a 3" excursion for the speaker, when I discussed this with their engineers they told me that actually the excursion is more like 4". As you know I have not been able to listen to my f 113 yet (line level deprived at the moment), so I am really excited about the 4" excursion and the 16HZ. I was a little confused when Dr. HSU listed the VTF-3 HO Turbo as extending down to 16hz while JL listed 19hz for the f 113. I believe you. I can't wait for my new A/V controller with the line level feed so that I can power up the f 113. (gee.....f 113...........sounds like a jet aircraft) BTW, how are you moving the JLs around in your room. I haven't listened yet but I am moving the unit around the room. Go figure. It takes me and my wife on our knees pushing it with all the muscle we have to just barely move it. They didn't add concrete for balast did they?

Sorry dp1954, it has to be forte IIs. My goal is to add 5 to the 2 that I already have in support of a 7.1 system. Anyone out there know of any forte IIs in oiled walnut in mint condition for sale located in MD, PA, VA, WV, NY, OH, NC, DE, MA ???? I'm so desperate that I will offer a $50.00 finders fee if anyone provides me with a lead that I actually buy speakers from.

Now its too big again. What's going on Mike Colter???????????????

Hey, now Janet's picture looks OK and I haven't touched it. The wonders of technology. Apparently the computer interpreted the picture problem and decided to fix it on it's own. Now that's progress.

It was a surprise dessert that the restuarant gave us without our asking or paying for it. A very nice touch and perfect ending to a memorable lunch at a landmark location. God, even I don't remember the 1960 worlds fair. Has it been that long? Janet is 3 years younger than I.

The JL f113 does list at $3,200 but if you are serious about buying a JL Audio product let me know and I can get you a decent discount from an authorized JL dealer. A good price can make the difference between buying or not buying their products since they do cost a lot but appear to be worth the price. EAR, unless you have determined your frequency numbers by measurements, I think you are wrong on the frequency response for the f113. The engineers at JL say that the frequency response is 19 - 200 hz. No big deal. We are all wrong at times. .......and BTW EAR I have McIntosh equipment and eventhough my stereo amp. doesn't have a line level output that doesn't cause me to lose any respect for McIntosh.

I am seeking 5 or 6 Forte IIs, mint condition, oiled walnut, located within 300 miles of Baltimore, Maryland for immediate purchase. rrinaldi@jhsph.edu

Looking for 5 or 6 Forte IIs, mint condition, oiled walnut, located within 300 miles of Baltimore, Maryland for immediate purchase. rrinaldi@jhsph.edu

Doctor Doctor, give me the news............................who sang that song? Robert Palmer perhaps? I guess the song was written for the f113........I've got a bad case of loving you !!!!

When it comes to a powerful amp. or a sandwich you can't beat a BIG MAC !!! http://stereophile.com/solidpoweramps/804mcintosh/