[RF 7 vs RF-82]

Hey Hudson. Thx for catching the typo. Wasn't paying attention. I have edited my original post.

[RF 7 vs RF-82]

I went yesterday to demo the 82's. When I got there, they had the RF 7 in the demo room but not the RF-82's. The dealer gave me the following quote on an 82 package.

RF-82, RC-62 and RS-52 for $1650 + tax.

RW-12d would be $529 + tax

He said he was running a special 25% off if I bought a complete 5 piece set.

I had him quote the RW-12d separate as I have heard great things about the SVS PB12/Plus2.

Few questions for everyone.

He said he got a real good deal on a bunch of RF-7's and they bought them all. He has two pair left. The did sound incredible with the RC-64 that I demo'd. I was truly blown away at the volume, clarity and beauty of the sound that these speakers created.

I believe he said the RF-7's were more than the 82's but not sure how much more. I'm thinking $1200 - $1400 for the pair. I think the RF-7's would be out of my budget but wanted to get some opinions on the difference between the 82's and the RF7's.

Is the price that he quoted me a good deal or just an ok deal? Do you think I could get them for less from him?

I'm really leaning towards the SVS sub.

[Advice for First Home Theatre Room]

Thanks for the awesome advice everyone! I am keeping notes of the details that you have suggested in a file so that I can easily reference them when we begin to build in January. 21' x 14 x 10' would work great because I could build a false wall up front that would be 4 feet thick. I know nothing about proper proportions in order to have "excellent resonant mode dispersion". Heck....I'm not sure I even know what that means. [] The house is going to be custom built. The floorplan is one that we found that we liked and modified it a bit in Photoshop. The floorplan also had a modified plan to make the Living Room part of the Master Bedroom but we figured it would be just wasted space to have a huge bedroom. We have 4 children (1, 4, 6 and 8 years old). My wife likes the idea of having a small area to allow some separation from the kids when we have company, or just want to hang out together. I agree that the 11 x 11 rooms for the kids are small, that's why I want to add some length to them. I'm a youth pastor and my wife is a school teacher. Income is good, but with 4 kids, we have to stay within a budget for the house. Hoping to meet with the architect next week to show him our design and talk about options. Any other advice is surely welcome.

[Selling RF-83 pair and RC-64 - Cherry Finish]

I'm jealous. [] Nice setup jascott.

[Discount, what can you expect???]

Sounds like you got a really good deal at around 35% off! Maybe I'll get that fortunate. []

[Discount, what can you expect???]

Thanks Watson. I'll give it a try when I save up for my system.

[Discount, what can you expect???]

Roughly 20% is the figure that you should expect. 25% is something you can get off really cooperative dealers who are smart enough to realize you'll come back and bring friends. 15% is the "industry standard" discount that you're given when the dealer is trying to squeeze you for money... without being a total ******* about it.

Is the percentage off the MSRP or what they are currently asking for their speakers? I was quoted $490each for the RF-82's. That is basically MSRP pricing. What would be a good price to offer the dealer?

[New Klipsch Purchase...Need Suggestions]

You guys have been giving me some great advice and I really appreciate it.

Buckeye,looks like you have talked me into going with the RF-82's instead of the RF-62's. The RC-64 is sweet but the RC-62 is more in line with my budget. Your advice on keeping my receiver for now is probably a good idea. It is a great receiver but older.

I will wire the room for 7.1 but might only go 5.1 in the beginning and purchase the additional speakers at a later time.

Matrix, you suggest using the RB-61's for rears instead of the RS-52's. When I move to 7.1 setup, should I purchase the RS-52's for the side surrounds or use direct speakers for them as well? My current rears (Polk F/X500) are dipole/bipole and I really liked them. With the indirect reflecting sounds, it seemed to envelope the room with rear sound quite well.

I am building the room from scratch. That's why I want to get any suggestions I can from others that know much more than I do about this. I'm pretty tech savy but I'm not a true audiophile by any means. I just want it to sound as good as it can within a modest budget.

JDB, I have not decided on the display/TV yet. It will either be projection or LCD. Part of me is leaning towards LCD but I can get a much larger image with projection. So many decisions. Good thing that I have 6 months to plan.

I will have some form of sound proofing. I will talk with the builder to see what he suggests since they have put in home theaters before.

I uploaded some photos the other day of my current speakers http://www.soleproductions.com/polk. I had them put in the classified ads but now that I think about it, I will probably hold onto my current equipment since I may use portions of it for the family room and some of it temporarily for the theater room. I might use my current bipole/dipole for the side surrounds.

[New Klipsch Purchase...Need Suggestions]

But I am looking to sell my Denon 3805 Reciever soon. Looking to get around $750 if I can.

Thanks but I just found the Yamaha 2600 on sale at Tweeter.com for $788.00. They have marked it down from $1300.00. That's a huge drop in price.

Michael,

Personally, I'd pony up the $200 to get the RF-82s or RF-7s (on ebay Direct from Klipsch) if they still have them.
The 7s are still around out there. If you go this way, the RC-64 or RC-7 for center channel should work well I think.
Surrounds can go either way, an RS-xx or RF-xx, opinion seems split on this among forumers, depending on aesthetics,
space and of course WAF! Just a few quick thoughts on my way out the door.

peace, mitch

Thx Mitch. The RF-82's look sweet and I'm sure their bottom end is fantastic. I haven't had a chance to demo them yet. I went 2 weeks ago to demo Klipsch for the first time in about 6 years. I wanted to hear the RB-61 bookshelves because I was originally going to have everything in the Family Room, but now have decided to build a separate theater room. As far as WAF, I can have anything I want since it will not be in the living room. That was the original reason why I was going with the bookshelves...but now I am looking at floorstanding for the fronts. For the demo, he brought the RB-62's in from another room, the RC-64 was already hooked up with the RS-42's and the RT-12. That sub was a bad mommajamma. [H]

Currently if you live in the KY, or Southern Ohio
area, or even near an Entertainment Solutions I would check it out.
They are having a pretty Huge Sale on Klipsch Speakers, recently I
purchased a pair of RF-63s, and an RC-62 for $1300 total. As far as
receivers go I have a Haraman Kardon AVR645 I got for $600 from JR.com.
I think the three combined sound amazing and with the addition of some
RS-52s for rear surrounds your only adding another $600 or so. However,
I am fairly new to this whole deal so maybe it would be better if you
take the advice of the posts above mine.

Actually, I live in Florida between Tampa and Orlando.

Thanks for the suggestions everyone. Anyone have any suggestions on room dimension with the layout that I have? I might want to reduce the 25' about 5' and use it as storage and a place to put the components. Not sure yet. Still trying to figure out how best to set it up and what equipment to use.

[New Klipsch Purchase...Need Suggestions]

But I am looking to sell my Denon 3805 Reciever soon. Looking to get around $750 if I can.

Thanks but I just found the Yamaha 2600 on sale at Tweeter.com for $788.00. They have marked it down from $1300.00. That's a huge drop in price.

Michael,

Personally, I'd pony up the $200 to get the RF-82s or RF-7s (on ebay Direct from Klipsch) if they still have them.
The 7s are still around out there. If you go this way, the RC-64 or RC-7 for center channel should work well I think.
Surrounds can go either way, an RS-xx or RF-xx, opinion seems split on this among forumers, depending on aesthetics,
space and of course WAF! Just a few quick thoughts on my way out the door.

peace, mitch

Thx Mitch. The RF-82's look sweet and I'm sure their bottom end is fantastic. I haven't had a chance to demo them yet. I went 2 weeks ago to demo Klipsch for the first time in about 6 years. I wanted to hear the RB-61 bookshelves because I was originally going to have everything in the Family Room, but now have decided to build a separate theater room. As far as WAF, I can have anything I want since it will not be in the living room. That was the original reason why I was going with the bookshelves...but now I am looking at floorstanding for the fronts. For the demo, he brought the RB-62's in from another room, the RC-64 was already hooked up with the RS-42's and the RT-12. That sub was a bad mommajamma. [H]

Currently if you live in the KY, or Southern Ohio
area, or even near an Entertainment Solutions I would check it out.
They are having a pretty Huge Sale on Klipsch Speakers, recently I
purchased a pair of RF-63s, and an RC-62 for $1300 total. As far as
receivers go I have a Haraman Kardon AVR645 I got for $600 from JR.com.
I think the three combined sound amazing and with the addition of some
RS-52s for rear surrounds your only adding another $600 or so. However,
I am fairly new to this whole deal so maybe it would be better if you
take the advice of the posts above mine.

Actually, I live in Florida between Tampa and Orlando.

Thanks for the suggestions everyone. Anyone have any suggestions on room dimension with the layout that I have? I might want to reduce the 25' about 5' and use it as storage and a place to put the components. Not sure yet. Still trying to figure out how best to set it up and what equipment to use.

[New Klipsch Purchase...Need Suggestions]

My wife and I are building our first home after 10 years of marriage
and 4 kids later. I have been a long time fan of Klipsch but have
never owned them personally.

My current system is:

Onkyo TX-DS555 (5.1 Dolby Digital Receiver)
Polk RT-800 Front Floorstanding
Polk CS-300 Center
Polk F/X 500 Rears
Velodyne CT-100 Sub

My
system is about 7 years old and has served me well but I have never
been really satisfied with the dialogue from the center channel. I am
wanting to take it up a notch and have looked into purchasing a Klipsch
setup.

We found a floorplan that we like and I have made
modifications to it. I am interested in adding a Theatre Room to the
back side of the house. You can see the layout below. The dotted line
shows that I want to add about 1-2 feet to the length of the left rooms
(shown by dotted lines). With the original size of the back bedroom
being 11' and the pool bath being 12' plus the 3' between the two, that
would make the length around 25 - 26'.

I'm interested in purchasing the following setup for the Theater Room used primarily for movies but I love music too:

• RF-82 Front
• 
  RC-62 Center
• 
  RS-52 Surrounds
• 
  RW-12d Subwoofer (I probably will use my Velodyne Sub for now to help stay within budget.)
  
  

Budget for speakers & receiver: Around $3000.00

Here's where I need your suggestions.

1.
Based on the layout and dimensions of the house, what dimensions would
you recommend for the theater room? Ceiling does not have to be 10'.
I'm thinking of having two rows of 3 leather theater chairs with back
row elevated.

2. I looked into replacing my Onkyo Receiver
with a Yamaha RX-V1700 but it is $1200.00. Many forum members have
suggested getting a $500.00 receiver. Should I upgrade my receiver or
is it even necessary until I go to a 7.1 setup. Still works great but
is an older receiver.

3. Would the Klipsch system that I
mentioned above be adequate for that room size? Before I thought about
adding a dedicated theater room, I was going to use the RB-61's for
front speakers in a custom entertainment system. With the theater
room, I think I would rather have the RF-62's.

4. Any Do's or Don'ts that I should know when designing a custom theater room?

5.
Working with a $3000.00 budget, I know that I might have to use some of
my existing system and slowly purchase the speakers as others have
mentioned in the forums. What would you keep from my current system
and what would your replace?

Thanks in advance for your advice and suggestions.

Michael

[Advice for First Home Theatre Room]

My wife and I are building our first home after 10 years of marriage and 4 kids later. I have been a long time fan of Klipsch but have never owned them personally.

My current system is:

Onkyo TX-DS555 (5.1 Dolby Digital Receiver)
Polk RT-800 Front Floorstanding
Polk CS-300 Center
Polk F/X 500 Rears
Velodyne CT-100 Sub

My system is about 7 years old and has served me well but I have never been really satisfied with the dialogue from the center channel. I am wanting to take it up a notch and have looked into purchasing a Klipsch setup.

We found a floorplan that we like and I have made modifications to it. I am interested in adding a Theatre Room to the back side of the house. You can see the layout below. The dotted line shows that I want to add about 1-2 feet to the length of the left rooms (shown by dotted lines). With the original size of the back bedroom being 11' and the pool bath being 12' plus the 3' between the two, that would make the length around 25 - 26'.

I'm interested in purchasing the following setup for the Theater Room used primarily for movies but I love music too:

• RF-82 Front
• 
  RC-62 Center
• 
  RS-52 Surrounds
• 
  RW-12d Subwoofer (I probably will use my Velodyne Sub for now to help stay within budget.)
  
  

Budget for speakers & receiver: Around $3000.00

Here's where I need your suggestions.

1. Based on the layout and dimensions of the house, what dimensions would you recommend for the theater room? Ceiling does not have to be 10'. I'm thinking of having two rows of 3 leather theater chairs with back row elevated.

2. I looked into replacing my Onkyo Receiver with a Yamaha RX-V1700 but it is $1200.00. Many forum members have suggested getting a $500.00 receiver. Should I upgrade my receiver or is it even necessary until I go to a 7.1 setup. Still works great but is an older receiver.

3. Would the Klipsch system that I mentioned above be adequate for that room size? Before I thought about adding a dedicated theater room, I was going to use the RB-61's for front speakers in a custom entertainment system. With the theater room, I think I would rather have the RF-62's.

4. Any Do's or Don'ts that I should know when designing a custom theater room?

5. Working with a $3000.00 budget, I know that I might have to use some of my existing system and slowly purchase the speakers as others have mentioned in the forums. What would you keep from my current system and what would your replace?

Thanks in advance for your advice and suggestions.

Michael