Chris A

My wife just said that she really likes these speakers...even though they're ugly. She says that they're easy on the ears (She's singing along right now.) She also asked if there is a Klipsch widows forum since I told her that "...statistically, between 81-98% of audiophiles are male". I told her I'd look for that forum.

I appreciate your directness in answering those two stupid questions of mine. Thanks Bill, Mike B. and Mike TN. These are real questions for me--and maybe for others. Mike B.: when you get more material on your website (URL?) I'd like to keep reading whatever you find in this area and on related acoustics and sound reproduction issues. Because the Jubs apparently have such good controlled directivity and coverage within their zones, I just don't know about room treatments. Your experience is in fact very valuable. Bill - I am going to use these in at least a 4.0 HT system; the preamp on its way is 7.1, but any future surround/center channels probably need to be small enough to fit in the "WAF envelope". My surround speakers are currently semi-large bookshelfs that I had. I don't know where I would put the Jubscala, but I would be interested in hearing more and seeing a picture of them. Heck, who knows, maybe its possible to change venues in my hacienda (or potentially change haciendas in the far term). Mike TN: Sounds like you have been doing the room treatment thing for a while. I'd be interested in any insights you have with moving your panels around. I'd also like to have an idea of your relative room dimensions so I can understand if your setup is applicable to mine. To all readers: Merry Christmas and Peace to You. I hope our troops can redeploy home soon from CENTCOM theater deployment. We need all those good people alive and healthy for the future of this country. Regards, Chris A.

Wow, I think that I take back question #1. I turned them up this morning... Wow.

Interesting EQ curves and crossover freq. Thank you very much Bill and Mike. I have updated the Crown settings to match your supplied settings. I assume these are the EQ curves that were generated in the anechoic chamber environment (as alluded to in Roy's separate email). My previous settings were 800 hz gentle slope and RTA/calibrated mike in the sweet spot. The difference is really quite large, I must admit. Even so (and it is early in the AM here to be cranking it up for a "hand volume" listening test), the sound is still amazing if perhaps less forward now with these new settings. Now the new kid on the block asks stupid questions: 1) How do you reconcile EQing your speakers in a real listening environment relative to using anechoic corrections? Do you use an automated RTA/EQ, just stoically set them flat to anechoic and leave them, try to shape the EQ by ear, or some specific combination of the above techniques? Do you personally vary your EQ based on source material? If so, generally how do you do it? 2) With the really excellent directivity of the Jubs at freqs above the bass region, how much and where would you apply room treatment (diffusers and traps) as a first cut? Have you considered the ceiling near field relative to the listening sweet spot. How far back is your sweet spot? I realize these questions are specific to those who've had their hands on Jubs but the answers really don't have to be limited to just Jubs. Any pi (wall/floor mounted) or pi/2 (corner-mounted) speaker probably has similar characteristics. Chris

I'm using an UltracurvePro DEQ 2496 (the RTA works in the graphic mode). An AV preamp is on order. My prior setup included Khorn clones (actually Shinalls) which are extremely nice looking in these corners (i.e., high WAF). There is no mistaking the presence of the Jubs - they grab your attention in basic black. The Jubs are breaking in and sounding sweeter and more natural daily. If you haven't heard Jubs in a real living room environment, all I can say is that you have got to hear them first hand. My wife mentioned that she had never heard such effortless deep bass while she was listening to Patricia Barber's A Fortnight in France. The upper horn/driver unit really distinguishes itself from the Khorns- piano and female voices sound much more natural on the Jubs than the Khorns. I'm still looking to experiment with bass traps to see what, if any effect these will have for this room. Bass traps are low WAF, however... The room dimensions are 15.5 ft W x 9 ft H x 39.5 ft D with some intrusion into the rectangular floor plan by the room under the stair on the right. Although this arrangement isn't supposed to work as well along the short dimension, I find that the depth of the room adds depth and presence for these big voices. Charles-Marie Widor's Toccata in F (organ) is literally a religious experience. Chris

How about these? Jubs, Crown XTI-1000s and a RTA/EQ. Opinions? (Gently, please.) Chris

Rigma, Have you thought about trying a higher power and higher slew-rate SS amp, just for grins? (No kidding here.) Also, getting driver phase delay corrected may also help, assuming you haven't already tried this (but you probably have done this...). I recall that impulse and "sizzling" cymbal response is something that Bob Carver tried to duplicate using some really high-end monitors and an unbelievable amount of power in the mid-80s. He was using a pair of scissors to cut a sheet of paper, if memory serves. I don't think he was successful in duplicating the real sound even from a system that would today cost $100K+. I would also wonder if using some hf acoustic treatment between and above the speakers to absorb rather than diffuse hf energy, but leaving the back of the room (behind your head) "live", i.e., a dead-end live-end mixing room concept. A few unused comforters or blankets arranged on the wall between might be useful for a test. Regards, Chris A.