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I am using the Behringer EP4000 to run all my subs and my DBB bass bins. (I replace my Crown K1 with one of these amp and am very pleased with the sound for the bass bins.) I like those amps thus far and they are doing a great job. The price is so attractive
Some folks have already recommended the QSC PLX series for better quality HF sound. I was wondering what other options you guys might suggest and I would appreciate the discussion on using pro amps for the high end.
Hey Rudy ,
So you traded in your K1 for an EP4000. The 4000 is very similar to a K2 where the 2000 would be similar to your K1.
K2 has a death grip on a woofer IMHO.
I've had the QSC SRA 2422 which is just a home version and maybe a few fancier parts than the PLX line. I used it in full range on my Chorus II's and it was great but I wouldn't trade my K2 for a QSC full range. Again thats just my opinion.
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Ssometime back klipsch group puchased some compettiters speaker cos and amp co I think
instant karma going to get you john lennon
Aragon comes to mind. Alot of folks didn't speak highly of the Klipsch aquisition.
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Looks like another reason for insurance companies to raise their rates.
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I listened for 30 mores minutes and to my surprise the left amp shut down, very disappointing. .
Ah sorry to hear. That sucks but I'm sure you'll get it worked out.
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If I put them up for sale at double the price most likely I would be banned from the forum.
Don
Yeah no doubt.
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I have had several offers from members on the Pcats. The purpose of this shoot-out is only to determine which of my 4 systems I have in different rooms will get which gear based on how they sound in each room. Thanks for the offers anyway !
The vultures probably seen what you paid for them.
Don't let them go for less than doubling your money Don. You just can't buy them like that anymore!
But better yet just keep them!
Congrats again by the way!
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In my experience over the years the preamp makes a huge difference. I personally think its right behind the speaker in the enormous of amount of change it makes from one to the other. I realize the source and room and location are all right up there as well but darn if the preamp hasn't been night and day for me.
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That said, both sound great and for most source material it's hard to tell which is which when you get them volume matched.
Well Doc I think thats right as long as your not talking 100 dbs or higher. The Cornwall performed well for me at low to medium volumes but lost all control at higher volumes. Between the screaming and the rumbling I had enough very quickly.
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I've never gotten around to it, but I've been dying to design a passive xover for the Chorus II that pads down the MF/HF section a bit to improve the overall tonal balance and really show how well that K48 can thump. .
But unlike some purist I'm not afraid to bump up the woofer with a little tone control. I'm a headbanger at heart anyways. The music I enjoy isn't considered to be audiophile music by any means. Classic rock, hard rock and heavy metal mostly for me. Now finding a tone control that does what its suppose to and leaves the other frequencies alone is a little tougher but I'm getting closer.
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Wow, I was expecting some comments after the graphs were posted. Looking at these bring up a lot of questions IMO. 1. Looking at the Cornwall response it doesnt look to be as sensitive as either Chorus model. 2. The Chorus II seems to be heads and shoulders above the Cornwall II in the bass management
Had both side by side and I agree with all the others here. The Chorus II just walks away from a Cornwall. I don't like a speaker that loses control with a little horsepower and ole Duke Spinner said it best "the Cornwall becomes a rumble box". That is exactly what it did in my room. Crown K2 on the 15 inch woofer of a Chorus II is nothing less than a sledge hammer.
Hi Stormin. I was surprised to see you were selling your Chorus IIs in light of how much you have expressed loving them. What are you going to next?
I'll admit I don't need another set of speakers but you and other Chorus II owners feeling so strongly about them has me curious enough that if a pair comes up near by at a good price I'll probably buy them just to see what the fuss is about!Hey I never said I was selling my only pair of Chorus II's. I still stand by my words "they will have to pry them from my cold dead hands".
Give them a try I think they are well worth it.
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Wow, I was expecting some comments after the graphs were posted. Looking at these bring up a lot of questions IMO. 1. Looking at the Cornwall response it doesnt look to be as sensitive as either Chorus model. 2. The Chorus II seems to be heads and shoulders above the Cornwall II in the bass management
Had both side by side and I agree with all the others here. The Chorus II just walks away from a Cornwall. I don't like a speaker that loses control with a little horsepower and ole Duke Spinner said it best "the Cornwall becomes a rumble box". That is exactly what it did in my room. Crown K2 on the 15 inch woofer of a Chorus II is nothing less than a sledge hammer.
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Cool equipemnt but that room looks terrible. For that kind of money I'd have a much nicer room.
Hes obvioulsy a gear head not an interior decorator.
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I would rotate the Chorus II's to the left wall which also helps with imaging because obviously there will be nothing in between the speakers to alter the image with the opening there. Also by moving your chair, loveseat or couch to the right wall it will help reinforce the bass which will even out the Chorus II dramatically due to its extremely flat response. The closer you move your seat to the right wall the punchier the bass will become. Just my 2 cents but give it a try.
Congrats on a nice speaker!
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Try Frostwire. I have a friend who does DJ work that told me about it. So far, it's been working great for me. The song downloads are free.
You can pretty much assume if your not paying its not legal.
I imagine the program is perfectly legal to have and use but downloading copyrighted material from a peer to peer file sharing program is not going to be legal.
I guess its all good until your service provider sends you a notice of warning but I wouldn't recommend it.
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First impressions is Amazing clarity, details and dynamics! Toto`s - i will remember has never been so powerful and direct!
Thats what I'm talking about.
Congrats!
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My KLF30 blows my Forte II's out of the water. Much cleaner sound, punchier bass. The Forte II's, however are stock while the KLF30 are modded with BC crossover rebuild and titanium diaphragms.
IMHO you have a toasted crossovers in your Forte II's.
Once upon a time back in 1996 when you could hear the 30's next to the Forte II's in the dealers showroom it didn't come accross that way. I and many many others felt we just took a step in the wrong direction but different strokes for different folks.
But I am Chorus II fan so what do I know!
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Explain what you mean by that comment please, would be great to get different views:)
My Chorii or able to stay smooth and clean at much more than moderate volumes. Actually I believe them to be one of the very best at high volumes. The tractix horn of the Chorus II, Forte II and Quartet family is what enables such a smooth response. I have enjoyed mine for over 20 years and if able will enjoy them another 20.
The room has a huge impact on the sound with the tractrix horn and the rear passive in my opinion. Also like most Klipsch offerings you need to find the right equipment that works for you. Alot of electtronics out there and they all have a sound of their own. I prefer to stay away from forward and bright sounding gear with horns.
I like the corner reinforcement for the bass for a more even audio presentation from top to bottom. I find putting alot of juice to the pro woofers used in this family wakes them up nicely. As Vital said its all very subjective and I was not disagreeing with the way he hears the speakers just that I hear them quite differently.
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The Chorus ll breaks up at extreme volume. While the Chorus ll has the edge on classic rock and music like that at moderate volume, the RF-7 has an even bigger edge on dance, hip hop, pop and heavy metal.
LMAO. Yep we sure hear differently.
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The mod's done to the Chorus II I think have ruined my first time listening experience to Chorus line but that's fine by me. .
Ouch, that doesn't sound very promising can you elaborate on that comment?
Stormin,
It was the opposite in Mike has a pair that he did a mod to so they are defiantly not original any more. Since I never heard the original Chorus II speaker before, this mod might have ruined it for me. They sounded great but the speaker that is in the works looks to be even better, now to just get those subs made to finially hear or feel the house move.
James
Oh I understand now. I took that the wrong way. It's good to hear that the mods are sounding good.
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You'll just have to show up next time....
LOL!
You got me!
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Big gathering with 10-20 members and thats it? This is all we get? No more photos? No experiences with the different set ups? Please tell us theres more.
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The mod's done to the Chorus II I think have ruined my first time listening experience to Chorus line but that's fine by me. .
Ouch, that doesn't sound very promising can you elaborate on that comment?
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I would rather bet its because your running almost twice the power now. The Crown K2 has a lot more kick than the K1 as well. But yet again its a power thing.