I totally agree with Wiland, I just picked up a pair of rf-82's from Ultimate Electronics on sale for $700/pr new sealed and full Klipsch warranty (authorized dealer). I feel like I got the deal of the decade. They are replacing a pair of KG-5.5's but these can now go in the living room. The 82's are flanking a Mitsubishi diamond series 73835 73" DLP. I am using an rc'62 for center and a pair of KSF-S5's for surround. I have an HSU VTF2-MKIII sub and am really enjoying myself these days. The 82's are truly remarkable----clear, clean, dynamic, LOUD! when you want them to be. All hail Klipsch!!