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awesome, glad that you figured it out =) enjoy!!!

Thanks for the clarification CECAA850 =) I knew that it increased voltage/output but didn't know that it made no difference in maximum output... I wouldn't run the subs at maximum output anyways lol. It's too bad that I can't utilize the L/R dual sub settings of my reciever (Yamaha RX-A2000). Does anyone know if this makes a big difference? Isn't LFE supposed to be non-directional anyways? The only benefit I can see of independant settings for the dual subs would be calibration for placement? It sounds kdm is trying to operate the 2 subs as a single unit with his single sub out from his receiever. I agree, it sounds correct. Seems like the consensus is that it doesnt really matter either way (single input vs dual input with Y splitter)

Does your AVR have output for 2 subs? I'm trying to find the forum link, but I read somewhere that using the Y-splitter gives a bump in sub output (increase in "dynamic gain"), whereas using separate L/R output to the KA-1000 may result in more defined bass but less output... Unfortunately for us, it seems that the KA-1000 + KW.120 dual sub combo is not able to independantly set sub levels from sub 1 and sub 2 (from what I've read and experienced with my Yamaha RX-A2000 which has independent dual sub capabilities). So I ended up using a Y-splitter to keep things simple and increase output even though it's overkill bass in my set up right now (level is set to -5dB after calibration). I'm going to play around with all the settings again once I move into the new house in the summer. If anyone else here has different info I'd love to hear it... this is just what I gleaned from the forums when I was trying to figure this stuff out... I'll see if I can dig up the forum links I'm referring to EDIT: here's a link refering to the increase in output: "Splitting the subwoofer output and feeding both the Left and Right inputs on the sub results in a +6 dB gain in voltage" http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/showthread.php?p=787665

No worries kde. I think I wrote KL instead of KS by accident. Just to clarify: I'm currently at a 5.2 setup. Maybe one day I'll be able to step it up to 7.2. For now, I have 3 x KL-650 (LCR) that I want to mount in the front of the room (according to the website 40lbs each and "MOUNTING 4-bolt pattern, 1/4"-20 thread"). And I have 2 x KS-525 that I want to mount and use as surrounds in the rear. (according to the website 20lbs each and "MOUNTING 2-bolt pattern, 1/4"-20 thread"). Sounds like a lot of people had trouble with being unable to mount the KS-525 flush due to the binding posts. The KL-525 is 32lbs http://www.klipsch.com/na-en/products/kl-525-thx-specifications/

Cool, thanks for the input kde. I'll most likely go with Omnimount 30.0 for the ks-525. Any one else have input for KL-650 (40lbs) mounts? =D

*BUMP* as I wish to know the answer to this question as well. Amazon reviews say the Omnimount 20 sags even with 10-13lb speakers... anyone have any experience with this? Anyone know which mount to use for the KL-120 as well? The highest the mounts will hold is 30lbs according to the Omnimount website?

From a google search it sounds like you used the MCACC on your Pioneer receiver which is a Room EQ program (like Audyssey is for Denon and YPAO for Yamaha). As Trey mentioned, it's best to review the settings after you run the program because it may not be set up correctly. For mine (YPAO) it set up incorrect speaker size and cross overs, so I switched to 80Hz and all speakers small after running the program. Usually the system gets the levels and the distance pretty good though (from what I've read). I still like to check it with an SPL meter. All this info can be found on www.audioholics.com Not sure what the 80 to 0 numbers mean with your Pioneer. Which model do you have? In mine (Yamaha RX-A2000) it goes from -10dB to +10dB (minus being softer, positive being more output). The YPAO actually lowered it to -8.5dB, but currently I'm setting it at -5dB. The goal for some is to reproduce what the sound is supposed to be like "reference", whereas others take a "what sounds best to them" approach. It really depends on your room situation as well. Right now my setup is in my bedroom so the subs are overkill (thus the -5dB), but once I move into the house it will be closer to 0dB. I like to set it up and then tweak the sound to how I like it. Sounds like you're set up with max output right now. I think +10dB on the subs would freak me out and bring the house down =p. I've never set any of my speakers that high... but hopefully someone with experience with a Pioneer setup can chime in. Not sure if it would damage the subs. Good luck with your setup! Here's another link I found for subwoofer set up: http://www.bigpicturebigsound.com/article_560.shtml I have an Avia disc http://www.amazon.com/Avia-Guide-to-Home-Theater/dp/B0041EQOFQ/ref=sr_1_4?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1295287907&sr=1-4 , but have been thinking about getting the Disney Wow Bluray: http://www.amazon.com/Disney-WOW-World-Wonder-Blu-ray/dp/B0045ASBLG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1295287854&sr=8-1 My friends like Digital Video Essentials: http://www.amazon.com/Digital-Video-Essentials-Basics-Blu-ray/dp/B000V6LST0/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1295287886&sr=1-1

http://www.audioholics.com/tweaks/get-good-bass/multiple-subwoofer-setup-calibration-1 Here's a link to a subwoofer setup guide from Audioholics. In that guide is also a link for multi-sub setup. Right now I have both of mine in the corner, but when I move I intend to place both up front about 1/4 length of wall. Hope that helps!

The final setting was first sub on, second sub off on the Yamaha RX-A2000, used a RCA Y-split to the KA-1000 AMP. It's working really well now... the bass is really clean! Did you calibrate the sound yet? Maybe want to double check the settings if you used YPAO because I heard it tends to set all the speakers as large and the cross over setting may not be where you want it. My speakers are all set to small with cross over at 80Hz. Then I calibrated with a SPL meter. Hope that helps =)

Wondering if anyone can help with recommendations for a AV cabinet to house a KL-650 center? So far I've looked at Bello, Sanus, Studiotech, Standout Designs, Z-line designs Here's some ideas of what I'm looking for: http://www.studiotech.com/index.asp?p=htc&pd=219&x=0&y=229 (really like the cloth but only comes in rosewood/ash.. would like more of a walnut) http://www.standoutdesigns.com/store/pc/Majestic-Grand-e7022-Premium-Wood-Edition-25p464.htm (like the walnut, but expensive and doesnt fit KL-650) http://www.bello.com/index.php?partition=show_product&prod_id=298&categ_id=46 (fits budget, fits KL-650, exactly what i want design wise but wood is too dark!) http://www.sanus.com/us/en/products/av-foundations/av-component/CFV69 (fits budget and like the design, wood still a little too bright/dark.. want more of a muted walnut... website doesn't show how large center space is so not sure if it will fit the KL-650) I would like it to house the KL-650 center in the middle (with cloth filter) and the AV components on the left and right of the speaker. Bonus if the sides are glass or cloth that allows my IR remote to work. The KL-650 L and R speakers will be outside on stands. We're not moving into the new house until July but I'm looking around to get ideas beforehand. Thanks for the help!

Congrats on the new house and building the dream! =) I'm the same... been lurking for quite a while with not much to add. Good luck with everything. Looking forward to the updates!

I'm moving into a new home in about 5-6 months, so hopefully the new house will not have the same problem. In the meanwhile, I recieved this over ther weekend: http://www.amazon.com/Scosche-Eso34-Ground-Loop-Isolator/dp/B00009UHL0/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1292890637&sr=1-5 A breeze to set up, and worked for the hum. Watched Gone Baby Gone yesterday, and there's a scene where the guys are in a SUV with some gangster rap. My wife was amazed at the bass and how clean it was. KL-650 LCR were sweet for dialogue and were very dynamic. Also spent some time with Joan Armatrading and Jack Johnson... wife says she'd actually listen to Jack Johnson now (didn't like his voice before). Currently saving up for the KS-550 pair for the rears. Can't wait to set everything up in the new house and really crank up the volume! =) Thanks everyone for your help... it was greatly appreciated. [Y]

Thanks for the offer, it is greatly appreciated. I've flashed the firmware and re-connected/re-setup the settings on everything and now everything is rocking! The subs are AMAZING... I've had to actually turn down the volume on the subs. I've been swamped with work, so I can't wait for the weekend to calibrate and play around with everything. The only problem I have left is a humming coming from the subs. From playing around with the system I found out that it is the result from connecting the cable box to any source (e.g. TV or receiver) with either a HDMI cable or component cable. If I disconnect the cable box there is no humming. I'm just using a cheap RCA split wire from radioshack... is this a possible result of the wire not being shielded enough? Thanks again for everyone's time.

Hi Everyone... first post here (its going to be long and detailed): I first got into home theater when I was setting up my father in law's system 3-4 years ago. During my research I came across the Ultra2 setup and always drooled over it. Fast forward 4 years and many weekend jobs later: I finally got my dream speaker system used (KL-650 LCR + KA-1000 + Dual KW-120... will get a pair of KS-525 later). Unfortunately it's been kind of a bummer. I purchased a Yamaha RX-A2000 reciever to use with the speakers and it has been hell trying to figure out why the subs won't work. Here's a recap from all the help I recieved from AVS forums/Audioholics: * all speakers set to small w/ 80Hx crossover * both subs set as ON (tried L/R, front/rear and Monaural) * the sub is set at 0.0dB, volume knob at 1/2 on the external amp * power amp assign: 7 channel normal configuration * dual RCA cable to RX-A2000 "PREOUT Sub front and rear" (have also tried Y-split RCA cable) * dual RCA cable connected to Klipsch KA-1000 input (AMP), tried THX mode ON/OFF, Gain ON/OFF * dual Klipsch KW-120 (passive subs) connected to amps correctly with Speakon cables * AV3 set up with Xbox360 + HD-DVD material (set as component C + optical #3) * AV4 set up with TV cable box (HDMI 4) * decoding set up as "straight" as well as all other possible settings * speakers ok on TV/XBOX but with no subwoofer sound (just humming noise) * test tone = just humming noise from subs, when raised to max some VERY faint bass is heard * plugged everything back into my old reciever = everything works I assumed it was the Yamaha RX-A2000 receiver but looks like it may be both the Yamaha and the KA-1000: http://forums.klipsch.com/forums/p/91368/925257.aspx It's quite a bummer to think that my 5 year old $300 Yamaha reciever works pretty well with the speakers but the new >$1K receiver does not. I would return the reciever if I could, but it looks like I am unable to return the reciever to Newegg.com without incurring quite a bit of a loss (Shipping + Restocking Fees). Page 165 of the manual says the Yamaha RX-A2000's Output level for the Preout is 1.0V/1.2kOhms, http://forums.klipsch.com/forums/p/126090/1274680.aspx#1274680 the post by Trey Cannon states: "the amp is mono only. If you use the "Y" adaptor, you will get about 6db more signal to the amp. It will take 700mV of input to run the sub amp to full output. In THX mode it will take 3 V to get the sub to full output. BTW: full output is about 67 Volts.)" QUESTION 1: If it only takes 700mV of input to run the sub amp to full output, shouldn't 1.0V be good enough? I have tried both RCA Y-splitting and setting the subs as "Monaural" as well as with dual RCA and setting up the subs as L/R and Front/Rear. Regarding Trey Cannon's post: so I will never be able to set the subs as L/R or Front and Rear? Just Monaural? QUESTION 2: If it truly is too low of a voltage from the new receiver, the post above suggested a SMS-1 to amplify the signal to the KA-1000. Do you guys have any other recommendations for a cheaper alternative? (Hopefully under $200.. I'm hoping to spend less then the cost of returning the amp to Newegg.com) Thanks for all your help guys, I've been a reader of the forums for bit and always appreciated how helpful you guys are!