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Be-A-utiful!!! Wow. I really like those. Love my cherry original 7's, but those are gorgeous.
They remind me of "decorator" Heritage gear. Just stunning. If not for the corner blemish, the grills would never see the light of day in my house!!
Congrats!!
Ps- an added bonus is that 7s kick A LOT of tail in the sound department too!!!
Thanks again kind sir. Yea I think even with the corner blemish I might keep the grills off most of the time (except when my friends are all over playing pool and ping pong in the adjacent room connected by a half wall...they're animals that can't be trusted). The room they're in is very dark most of the time due to blacked out windows and dim lighting so you only see the corner damage when up close and looking at it. Can't really tell from the listening position.
On a side note - what do you think a good price for these is? Not that I'm at all uncomfortable with what I spent on them but I'm a curious dude. Chime in with what you would all individually pay for them if you were buying them used from someone. With knowledge of the corner damage of course because I knew that before buying as well and of course used to it to haggle the price a bit.
Only because you asked I would have paid about 500 tops for
the pair because of that corner. Ones in good shape sell for about 800-1000 I think.
I have seen some that sell for around 600 with dented cones but you can replace
the driver for about 150.
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Brunt I know this doesn’t help because it’s not onkyo but I set
my avr mode to auto. And it reads the highest mode available. Pro llx will work
really good though I have toggled to it
and it sounds the same as auto to my ears. You will still have the lossless
tracks with the added content in the rear. On blu rays with ES its basically
6.1. In fact on my screen ES shows as 6.1. Here is a movie that is dts hd 5.1
ES. (Just like lord of the rings)
That’s what it shows on the ps3 blu ray player when I hit
display on it.
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Using plain old Dolby Pro-Logic IIx: Movie is the most common way. Contrary to popular belief, Pro Logic doesn't alter everything, it just matrixes what isn't there to begin with. So it'll matrix stereo into all seven (or six) channels, but if it's a discrete 5.1 signal it will only touch the rears. Other proprietary options include Logic 7 on HK equipment, and less commonly, DTS Neo:6. THX Cinema usually uses the default Dolby Pro-Logic II algorithm, and then applies their proprietary filters on top of it.
As for your random matrixing, if a disc is encoded with an EX tag, it automatically asks the receiver to matrix it. Content with EX tags have discrete content matrixed the other way (discrete sixth channel information downmixed into the side surround channels), that is then pulled back out by Pro Logic into 6.1 with the surround backs operating as one "channel". It's not quite as good as discrete 6.1 or 7.1, but it's an improvement. In your Onkyo receiver, there should be a setting that allows you to tell the receiver what to do with EX tagged material when it encounters it. By default, it's set to matrix automatically. "Matrix EX" doesn't change the inherent quality of the signal, it just mixes information from the surround sides into the rears...
EDIT: For owners of recent Onkyo/Integra receivers, you can go into the menu, then go "3. Audio Adjust" -> "3-2 Dolby" -> "Dolby EX" and select either auto or manual. Setting it to manual will override the default EX tags and force your receiver to use the audio format you have selected as the default for that input...
FYI, my Lord of The Rings is a Blu Ray...do Blu Rays have EX tags? I thought DTS EX was a DVD only format?
Lord of the rings is dts-hd ma 5.1 ES (6.1) not ex
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Congrats! Please post some pics in the rf-7ii thread
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Sharp has a 70” lcd/led 120hz that you can get for 2500-2900.
Gets super good reviews.
That's a pretty nice set, especially once you get about 15 foot away. Any closer and the reduced edge brightness becomes a bit of an issue, but it's quite impressive, especially for the price.
The best part of that TV is that it shows us how close we
are to getting to 70+ tvs for a really good price. I’m probably going to wait
and see what comes next. But that TV came out in May 2011 so maybe around April
2012 that TV might dip under 2k. If it does I might buy it.
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Can’t go wrong with SVS. But those other subs are probably
very nice as well. [
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Sharp has a 70” lcd/led 120hz that you can get for 2500-2900.
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Agreed tkdamerica can be a bit
harsh at times I get that to.
Nothing wrong with having a different
opinion. Just don’t need to make fun of someone for it.
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This thread is so long that the OP doesn't even own RF7ii's anymore! Lol
He still has them but his main
set up is the khorns I think
***O wait I think I know what you meant
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It’s a huge forum here is a link. You will have to dig in and look for it its over 800 pages....
OMG.
I am not going to dig through there, but suffice it to say without a link to the guys impressions of the differences between the RF-7 and RF-7II your picture is about as useful as a Youtube video that started this discussion. Fwiw, that looks like the German version of the AVS Forum's Klipsch Owners Thread, which has turned into a fanboy club instead of anyone doing any critical thinking (with the exception of a few conscientious Heritage owners). Again. this isn't a shot at you reference head, but musings about how people buy speakers nowadays and believe everything they see on the internet.
Well the guy’s name is Harley. Lol
didn’t want to go though it either watching football. It’s in the 600s I think if that helps. (feb
2011 I think I will look later). Happy to be a 7 owner new or old big or small
they sound great both of them!!!
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When blu rays first starting
doing lossless audio they just called it uncompressed lossless audio. Then Dolby
truehd came out. Shortly after that DTS
HD MA. But all it really is is uncompressed
lossless audio with a fancy HD name. When a blu ray player reads DTS HD MA 5.1
ES its reading 6.1 separate channels. I just don’t understand how you don’t see
that as a 6.1 lossless audio track regardless of what information is being sent
to the 6th channel. It’s
mixed as 6.1 and called ES. [
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Interesting...... Yeah, I figured that the back surrounds would take the 'center' rear.... but you would not be listening to a high resolution audio since its not encoded as such correct ?
Great on the bluray 7.1's you have, but how many blurays do you have that are not ?? Out of my very small collection of blurays, only TWO are in 7.1 while the rest are 5.1 ... Also a friend of mine made comment about the DTS vs. the Dolby thing, and it seems that its swung toward more releases in DTS these days. Have you found this to be true in your collection?
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Its high resolution lossless
audio. Look at the pic again it shows it
was at 4.4 mbps that’s super high resolution audio. I think you have a different
idea to what DTS-HD 5.1 MA ES audio is. It’s an audio format not a gimmick or
lesser audio format in resolution audio. Lord of the rings is DTS-HD MA 5.1ES audio;
The Incredibles is as well just name a few.
It’s a higher end audio then just
basic DTS-HD 5.1 MA
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Lord-of-the-Rings-The-Motion-Picture-Trilogy-Blu-ray/5174/
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I have 33 blu ray movies that are
7.1 or ES (6.1)
http://www.blu-ray.com/community/collection.php?member=Reference_head
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It’s just a name that they chose
to use. If I turn everything off but my rears on a 5.1 ES (6.1) movie. Both my
rears play the discreet 6th channel. Just to repeat ES = 6.1 it’s just how they
label it nothing more nothing less.
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Just looked at your recent photo...............Yes, DTS MA is discrete, but its NOT 6.1 ... Its 5.1 or 7.1 ... I am more curious as to what the NON highlighted 6.1 mode does...........as mentioned, by all correctness, you should never see that 6.1 unless you have a 6.1 format in the player... Also, your comment on 'Old Old' ..... Well, we didn't have BluRay in 2004 which was the orginal release date of the movie, however, HD 1080p are the upgrades to this movie and the audio portion is probably original...
all for the moment...
Put in any DTS MA 5.1 ES movie
and the blu ray player will decode it into 6.1 channels. ES is 6.1 audio it’s
not the same as the old EX. Here is a link to a brand new release in 6.1 audio.
The blu ray player has to be able
to decode ES or it won’t be 6.1. If you have an old blu ray player that doesn’t
support ES then you won’t get 6.1.
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It’s a huge forum here is a link.
You will have to dig in and look for it its over 800 pages.
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Another view of ES
That looks pretty discreet to me
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What’s wrong with talking about the look?
I care more about how a speaker sounds. Do you have a link to the review?
Ok so do I but what’s wrong with
talking about the looks to? Why are you getting
defensive?
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Hello there....
I thought I would continue with the discussion of the 6.1 rear center channel seems that is the theme as of late.
You may have not seen many, if ANY of these, so, I dug up my one and only 6.1 BluRay.
Here you can see the DTS 'ES' spec in discrete audio.... While the Dolby 'EX' is 5.1 with a mix or matrix to the rear center.
All for now..
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That’s not even HD audio. That’s old
old. When you run dts-hd ma ES and you look at the display on a ps3 its 6.1. The
pic below is the blu ray player display for DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 ES.
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No it’s a guy on a different forum he reviews gear and speakers. He reviewed them side by side. I have seen and heard them side by side though. The new rf-7ii look like the old ones on steroids side by side.
Well...There seems to be alot of talk about how a speaker looks as opposed to how it sounds and I would be interested in a link to that dudes audio review if you have it.
What’s
wrong with talking about the look?[:^)]
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That doesnt look like an RF-7 next to the RF-7 ll. The RF-7 and RF-7 ll are exactly the same except the RF-7 ll is half an inch taller. They are the same width and same depth. That RF-7 ll in this picture is way bigger than the speaker next to it. Those don't even look like 10's in the speaker.TDK, not all of us are "Zen travelers." Granted, I live in Kansas, and we have more cows than people here, but I haven't found anywhere within 4 hours to listen to RF-7 IIs. There are several stores that "carry" them, but they require a deposit prior to ordering them. On the other hand, just 30 minutes away is a high end store that sells the complete Heritage and Palladium line. Over the course of a year they demo all of the high end Klipsch models for a one month period each. Listening is by apointment only.
I can dig it...Then again, if what you are reporting is the new status quo there is Hope (pun intended) for the Palladium and Heritage lines because at that price point I don't imagine folks spend that kind of money without auditioning....Heck y'all are starting to convince me that folks that don't audition is who the New Reference series is geared towards.
Not tuff to sell this
(new rf-7ii and old rf-7)They
sell themselves
(Points at rf-7ii) it’s big for a reason!
Vital the drivers are bigger in the new rf-7ii. Get a tape
out and measure your 10s they are just barely 9” (if that). The new ones are a
little over 9”. Also it’s not the same
horn and it does look bigger but I’m pretty sure it’s the same size. I think
his plastic feet are broken on one side and its leaning to one side. That might be why it looks narrower.
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Not tuff to sell this
(new rf-7ii and old rf-7)They sell themselves
(Points at rf-7ii) it’s big for a reason!
Do you own both speakers?
No it’s a guy on a different forum he reviews gear and
speakers. He reviewed them side by side. I have seen and heard them side by
side though. The new rf-7ii look like
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TDK, not all of us are "Zen travelers." Granted, I live in Kansas, and we have more cows than people here, but I haven't found anywhere within 4 hours to listen to RF-7 IIs. There are several stores that "carry" them, but they require a deposit prior to ordering them. On the other hand, just 30 minutes away is a high end store that sells the complete Heritage and Palladium line. Over the course of a year they demo all of the high end Klipsch models for a one month period each. Listening is by apointment only.
I can dig it...Then again, if what you are reporting is the new status quo there is Hope (pun intended) for the Palladium and Heritage lines because at that price point I don't imagine folks spend that kind of money without auditioning....Heck y'all are starting to convince me that folks that don't audition is who the New Reference series is geared towards.
Not tuff to sell this [
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sell themselves
(Points at rf-7ii) it’s big for a reason!
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I’m guessing lagolas is super excited to get his new
speakers and he wants to see some good video shots of them in action. I’m guessing
that the sound he hears probably won’t really matter contrary to what he says. This
would have probably gone over better if he had just said that and not that he
wanted to hear them. Just my guess I could be wrong. But when I ordered mine I looked
all over the internet that week online looking at pics and reviews.
well your almost right, i said i really think that these are the one's for me. in action will drop the axes. it couldn't gone any different because i knew people will crucify
me when i'll ask them to post a demo and base my decisions on that, well what can i say? this is me. i'm trying to be as close as i can to the RF 7ii before i buy them, a demo for me does the trick.p.s. your system is great !!! i got your system pics as a screen saver on my HTC
Thank you for your kind words[:$]. If it helps it sounds better
than it looks. [
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I am not going to dig through there, but suffice it to say without a link to the guys impressions of the differences between the RF-7 and RF-7II your picture is about as useful as a Youtube video that started this discussion. 
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me when i'll ask them to post a demo and base my decisions on that, well what can i say? this is me. i'm trying to be as close as i can to the RF 7ii before i buy them, a demo for me does the trick.
Now a proud owner of dark cherry RF-7s!!!!
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Well they are definitely worth more than 500. I’m just
saying on the used market with the smashed corner. Because they normally go for
800-1000 is mint condition I think.
All that matters is that you’re happy. I’m sure they sound
amazing.
Plus I’m not the authority on used gear.[
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