Steely Dan

Pravin, I had the same issue with my rf-82s and denon avr 300 (entry level) avr. My old Bose 701 and technics Avr (16 yr old system), had more bass. The denon manual is poorly written so you need to experiment. Here's what I did that made a night and day difference: -set front speakers to small -set sub crossover to 80, phase to 0 -SET "RESTORER" TO LOW (makes a huge difference) -press 'music" in denon remote and select stereo, if you press "Pure" button sound will be very flat -turn on audyssey AND dynamic eq -if you still want more bass, move up the volume in the sub, not the avr subwoofer trim level Let me know if it works.

Bought these all from future shop/best buy last month: Rf-82s $500/pair Rc-62 $300 Rs-400 (equivalent to rs-42s) $300/pair Denon E300 $280 All were on sale when purchased.

Setting the phase to 0 indeed added a lot bass to both music and movies. I recalibrated my system and my sub results still gave me -12db. I turned down the volume to 25% and it brought it down to -7db. Still high but I can live with that for now. I might have to turn it all the way down to 10-15% as others have done. Thanks for all your suggestions!

I still need to do some additional tests, but I think I've found the reason why I'm not getting enough bass - Audyssey's website says the phase setting of the subwoofer should be set to 0 (this bit of info is not in the denon manual). I tried that and music sounded much better. I'll be re running Audyssey set up later when the kids are in bed.

Yes. It's a velodyne 12". Ive now set it all speakers to small. Seems to sound better. In addition, I manually increased the volume of the subwoofer. Audyssey set it at -12 db - I increased it to +10 db. Is that unusual? Am I bass deaf? LolAudyssey set my crossovers to 40hz for the fronts and center, and 80 hz for the surrounds, should I try to tweak this as well?

Thanks guys - I pulled the trigger on an e300 today, everything's good so far but I need to do a lot of tweaking. Man, avr's have changed so much the last 15 years. Lol. Question for you guys - I'm not getting enough bass when listening to music. A guy on the denon forum said I should set my front speakers to small. I will certainly try it, but what do you guys set it to? Audyssey set my rf-82s and rc-62 to large.

I currently have a pair of RF-82s, an RC-62 (just delivered last night!) and will add a couple of Rs-400s next year. I'm planning to replace my ancient Technics AVR and have been looking at the marantz sr5008 and harman 3700. It dawned on me that I don't really need many of the features of the marantz and harman avr's eg multi zone, multiple inputs etc, advanced Audyssey. i was interested in these units as I was thinking of buying an amp at some point down the road. I'm now thinking I should just buy a less expensive avr, specifically the denon e300, that should serve my needs for the next 5 years, understanding that I would need to buy a newer avr at that point. My only concern now is that will the denon e300 be powerful enough to drive my set up? This avr is rated at 75 wpc. My system is in a 14' x 14' room with 8 foot ceilings. The denon is currently on sale for $280, which makes it even more tempting. What do you think?

Hey Italian speak I'm also in the market for a new avr. I also have rf-82s and an rc-62. I've been doing a lot of reading and a lot of people recommend getting a warm sounding avr such as marantz or harman kardon to match these bright or forward sounding set of speakers. I've narrowed down my options to a marantz sr5008 or hk3700. I might go with the marantz though as hk seems to have a spotty reliability record, plus it does not support hdmi standby pass through(a must Have feature for my family) Now im just waiting for the marantz to go on sale. In the meantime, my ancient technics receiver should do just fine powering my new speakers.

Thats good to know. How would you compare ezset EQ with Audyssey? Thanks.

Thanks again to all who have contributed to this thread. Edgar in indy: we have the same criteria for an AVR. Harman Kardon is on top of my short list because I've read that it has a warm sound signature and matches well with klipsch speakers. I also like the design and just like how it looks . Onkyo - I guess they've addressed their reliability issues? Audyssey is also my preferred sound calibration feature, but I've heard of good things about MCACC as well. Congrats on your new purchase! Let us know how it works out!

Thanks to all who have responded so far. I've created a short list with the following brands - H/K, Marantz, denon and pioneer. Subxero - interesting suggestion, but I'm leaning more towards a 2 step process/purchase - buy an AVR now and (if needed) add an amp later on. Kini62, I already have a sub, an old one - velodyne cts-12. I believe this is still a fairly decent sub even in today's standards. I've been reading through this forum, it seems that a majority believe that adding an amp actually improves the sound, so I might try that and get an avr with preouts. I might just wait for boxing day specials (equivalent to US' black Friday deals) or until a higher end model of any of the above brands go on clearance sale.

Brand new owner of klipsch here and first post ever. I just purchased a pair of rf-82s and will be buying an rc-62 and rs-42s this month. I will use my system 90% for movies and 10% music, 5.1 only. Setup is in my family room, which measures 14' x 14' with 8 ' ceiling, the room opens to kitchen and dining room area. I like the volume cranked up a bit higher than most people. I can spend up to $1000 on the new AVR, but if I can get away with something less expensive that would be better. Can anyone recommend brand and model? Should I bother getting a system with pre-outs, I.e. will I possibly need to buy an amp with this setup in the future? Thanks!