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  1. 1 minute ago, billybob said:

    The others are generally bargain speakers also with same drivers. Cool he is in the states. Sorry!

    No worries - yep, the T500 I think adds a passive radiator. A shame about the vinyl wrap and thinner cabs, but the innards are great.

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  2. 15 minutes ago, billybob said:

    He is in Germany. But yes, same as the Tangent 500, T4000 and T5000...

    Hi Bob, I was replying to Sparton175 in DC and the ad for $750 HIIs - a set of T400s can be had for ~$300. You could build a very nice cabinet for $450 (at least that has been my plan for the last 5 years 😆)

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  3. 1 hour ago, moray james said:

    well as they say "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink". I agree with  you Bruce that there are more advantages to the taller Tangents than with the Heresy. The OP get to choose what floats his boat. I hope that other readers of the thread see the benefits of the Tangent option and at $400.00 Canadian that is a very good deal.

    Thanks moray james and billybob. Yes, it's all a matter of personal taste. Let's hope someone here is convinced to give them a go and would like to swap. For whatever reason, the Tangents are not valued anything like the H2s, so a swap is unlikely. It was a few years ago, but I think I paid ~$170 for the Tangents and the seller was having a very hard time selling them for that. The scratched and stained H2s I had, I sold for what I paid for them after I cleaned them up a little ($300). Nowadays, a quick review of prices on CL of H2s in OK to nice shape go for $500-900. So unless the value of Tangents has rocketed I have a good budget to make cabs and buy upgrades to make a stellar pair of H2s to my liking. 

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  4. 6 hours ago, garyeanderson said:

     The tangent has a lot going for it, if its not what you want, move them along to someone that does and either build or by what you really do want.  

    So that's option 1 or 3 and I am happy to do either. H2s are what I want. Having had both, I would be very happy with a nice set of H2s. 1 being the easiest. Option 2 was more of a stop gap, since the quality of the cabinet (vinyl wrapped particle board) is not in the same league as a 'heritage' speaker. If the Tangents have so much going for them then Option 1 could be just the ticket for someone who wants all the benefits that design brings.

  5. 2 hours ago, Could sound better said:

     

    Dan, 

    before I acquired my Cornwalls I had a pair of Heresy ii's. I always thought they lacked a little bass. Maybe the 400 cabinets are just fine. Maybe all they need is a recap?, and some titanium diaphragms in the horn?

    Whatever I do, I will likely upgrade the diaphragms. I do have a velodyne sub with DSP/room correction in the closet as well.

  6. 3 hours ago, Marvel said:

    You will lose some bass by losing the port and cabinet volume. I have a pair of HIIs and was thinking of going the other way and building Tangent 400 cabinets. Sing the footprint is about the same, what are you really gaining by making a shorter cab?

    Let me know if you want to swap cabinets! I have had both and for whatever reason, the HIIs feel less dominating in a space, and can be stacked for storage. If I want bass I have the big rig (with Yamaha NS1000Ms)

     

    I had a pair of H2s but the cabs were worn and bass drivers had something spilled on them at one point - they are a good party speaker 🙂

    The plan back then was to build some nice cabinets out of quality finnish birch ply and rehouse the drivers from the H2s. Then I saw the tangents on CL with pristine drivers. So I sold the H2s and bought the Tangents with the plan to still build some nice new H2 cabinets. That has not happened in a few years but I am revisiting it now. (I know, I know, should just switched the bass drivers and sold the Tangents, but the H2 cabs weren't as nice as I would like and H2 sell for twice the price of Tangents).

     

     

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  7. Hello all,

     

    I have a pair of Tangent 400s and was thinking of turning them into Heresy IIs. I have large speakers in my main system and would like to set these up in a small bedroom so need a smaller speaker. Has anyone done this? It seems all the speaker/crossover parts are identical, so it's just a matter of a new cabinet. Thoughts on these options in order of effort?

     

    1) Find someone who wants more bass out of the H2s that is willing to swap cabinets

    2) Cut the Tangent cabinet down & install a new bottom & risers 

    3) Build a set using a Crites motorboard ($80/pr + shipping) + new birch ply. (Sell / donate Tangent cabs)

     

    The Tangents look just like these: 

     

    cheers,


    Dan

  8. No, I'm not serious about these, just posting for others. At some point I'd like to hear La Scalas, though.

     

    The winter project, now that the Heresy IIs are sold, is building Heresy cabinets out of birch ply to house the drivers from my Tangent 400s.

  9. Thanks. Well they went locally - just the one enquiry but they took them after seeing them. Now there's funds in the kitty to order bits from Bob Crites to  build new enclosures for my DIY Heresys from a pair of Tangent 400s I picked up after I got these.

  10. These appear to be a custom order. I contacted Klipsch because the serial number did not match the usual date codes. They could not date them, but thought 'late 80s early 90s' and the 'w/o' on the label could have been a work order number for a special shipment, possibly for military bases in Europe, but they were speculating since no records to verify the number.

  11. 14 hours ago, onemoretime said:

    Thanks for the report. I've been tempted by a couple of Tangents, but just didn't see enough written about them to feel confident pulling the trigger. Your pair looks great, and it really does look like a ported Heresy in a cabinet built for better bass extension.

     

    Is there any difference between the drivers of the Heresy and Tangent woofers? Is it possible the Tangents are using the HIP magnets, which are 2X heavier than standard Heresy?

    For the $175 I paid for the Tangents, I think they are an absolute bargain. I hear they show up in thrift stores for even less, but I think they are pretty rare over here (if it is true they were mostly sold to the overseas miltary). When I pull the drivers out, I'll see if I can tell any difference between two. The spec sheets have the same part number (K-24-K)  - I was not aware the magnets could differ. The tangent spec sheets lists the woofer as weighing 20 oz.

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  12. I spent a very pleasant Sunday afternoon spinning some Blue Note jazz albums, mostly through the Tangents. A/B switching revealed less bass and smaller soundstage from the H2s. I had turned the cutoff frequency of my velodyne sub down will listening to the Tangents, and didn't try to compensate when switching back to the H2. It's no surprise the bass goes lower given the larger volume. The bigger soundstage I put down to having the tweeters/mids higher. Overall the sound was very similar. Both sound great. Looking forward to seeing what the upgrades do.

     

    So, I think the poor rep. relative to the heritage line of the Tangents is unwarranted.

  13. 13 hours ago, onemoretime said:

    Should be interesting to see how your project turns out. Good luck, and please post pics!

    Thanks! Will do.

     

    @Weber What's surprising is just how much bigger they look standing next to my Heresy speakers:

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    I imagine the dimensions are very similar to Crites Speakers CS1.5
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