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So from what I can tell, 1. is the high pass the subwoofer should go with 450 and then the low is 20 hz. So the range is 20-450hz and then the horn(K402) is 3 high pass at 20000 and low to 400, so range is 400-20,000. 

 

When I align the top of the page with the columns, low hi this is what I did. Am I backwards? 

 

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6 minutes ago, babadono said:

I know nothing but for the bass bin dontcha need a LP at 450 and a high pass at say 30(or none)? And for the mid/highs a high pass at 400 and low pass at 20K(or none)?

 The screen shot looks like the opposite. Or I'm thinking upside down and backwards.

Im using the B&C 75 settings. Now you have me looking at it, I didn't think I was backwards.

 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Chris A said:

What are you using for a preamp? 

Marantz 7703

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I still haven't decided on whether or not I will go with a subwoofer, however it would be nice to have some input on how you active users are going below 20hz. Both the DC One and the Xilica processors have a frequency range of 20-20khz. This is specified by both manufactures on the spec sheets, in addition it will now allow me to plug in a lower number than the 20hz pictured below. So in this circumstance, how does one get the crossover to play below the 20hz if that is the cutoff? 

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2 hours ago, Speed said:

I did the same thing, on Chris A's recommendations. We may have been bidding against each other, how funny...

Are you up and running yet? If so, when was the last time you've been outside? 

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7 minutes ago, USNRET said:

Nadda it's all good except for us thread crapping RSVRMAN.

Come now I created the this throne, do you mean I cannot use it? 

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2 minutes ago, USNRET said:

Actually I would love to have a knowledgeable member come do some test / eval / suggestions since I am not capable. Yes, I would pay. 

 

 

I can see both sides to this. What if he tunes them, you spent $1000 and you now hate the sound? Or worse he doesn't know how to tune Jubilees or what you have. 

 

I know I keep using engine, mechanic related analogies, but I once took a DSM to a highly vetted shop for a dyno run and not only did I lose power they ran one of my cylinders too lean and required a rebuild. Ya I was not happy. Next time I took it to a shop that let me do the tune, I walked out with a much better powerband, more horsepower/torque. And I'm not an engineer. 

 

To each their own. 

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18 minutes ago, Schu said:

I dont want to buy a plane ticket, I dont want a "sound engineer" at my home... just get me the speakers, I will figure it out.

I'm more like you. If you're dropping the kind of cash on audio, you should know the ins and outs to your best ability. 

 

When I sold my last race bike, the buyers interested got to hear it, not ride it. I feel it's a bit of like owning Jubilees, though you may get more of a demo than from me selling my bike. I want to be in the drivers seat, even if it means I make a mistake and go deaf for a few days.

 

I hope to go to Hope as well someday, but visiting a current owner and considering travel costs, hotel lodging to not burden the owner, using vacation time we're looking at more than a few hundred. IMO I'd rather put that to more speakers, but if you have limitless income, all for it. Though with time, more owners in more areas will hopefully cure this dilemma.

 

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16 minutes ago, carlthess40 said:

Thanks Chris for the kind words

one other thing, most live sound engineers are not up to par as a recording engineer , I  recommend a recording engineer to help with the setup

recording engineers are more  tailored for clarity and definition, As opposed  to high SPL with live sound 

and as  mentioned in previous post room preparation is one of the top things needed keep in mind sound reflection. Also good sound   Dampening material on the side and behind the speakers , also  sound traps in the corners of high ceiling corners 

theres also a few good websites for DIY of making these things and also great DIY for speaker and rca cables

i can pm some links for you, not to sure on the  rules for posting websites on open fourm

if you could tell me your zip code I may be able to find a engineer close to you. Then you could speak to them and see if they could help you and the fees they charge

This is good advice, though not sure if you know who "Chris" here is. He has all of this done. And then some.... and then some more...

 

 

 

 

 

and some more . Search a bit and you will find out. 

 

 

There are few on this forum that can understand his knowledge of recording, setup, crossovers, speakers etc. End to end he is the guy.  

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1 hour ago, Coytee said:

I'm the first to admit my ignorance....but I'm intrigued on your comment about adjusting the gains.

 

I would think you'd want the gains on the amps set at the same level (be it 20% volume or 100%) and then set the crossover as per Roy's settings and I would expect things to be in balance.

 

Maybe one of those in the know could elaborate.

 

This is how I've done mine.  I go to each Crown, turn them down....then count the clicks to a certain level and put each channel of each amp at that same number of clicks.

 

 

100% correct. This was me dinking around. I count the clicks the same as you. I turned the horns up and the bins down and vice versa. I wanted to learn where the handoff/crossover is with the horns and the bins. Just helping me along the way to understand what I'm hearing.

 

I had them a bit turned up at his point. Things started dancing in other rooms heh. Usually it's 5 clicks putting them at about 9 o'clock. I'm very happy that everyone pointed me to the crowns (D75a). I got all 3 used on eBay for a steal. More power than I'd ever need. Only if I had a much, much bigger room "may" require more power. Best part, no hiss at all from the speakers. They are dead quiet when standing next to them. I could stick my head in the horn, but I'm still a bit flinchy on getting that close again. 

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Have about 15 hours logged and so far so good. Learning as I go. I quickly found my mistake, as when I was accessing the output levels on the active crossover, they were all clicked bypass. This translates to -80db it's lowest setting. So when I clicked that there nuke button (output level) rather than open its settings, it defaults to 0db. From there you can go + or -. Now that I know the setting and what it does, it should never happen again. Today I'm just tooling around with gains on the crossover and amps to find my sweet spot. I had to figure out ARC for the smart TV first to keep the wife happy, as she accesses a lot of her videos from there. 

 

My my son is surely enjoying wheels on the bus in stereo. Back to dancing in front of the TV.

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1 hour ago, Schu said:

Okay... it's been a day or two. Are you ready to sell them to me yet?

Sadly no, but I know a person that would sell you a pair! 

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1 hour ago, dtel said:

Done

 

Everyone

If you want to quote without the pictures, or just part of a sentence, just right click across the text you want and highlight it and stop. This will make a little box pop up where you highlighted that says quote, click it and you only quote the part you chose. without clogging up everything with the same pics over and over. 

 

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The speakers look good in your room, a few legos for deflection and it will be perfect.   Depending where you sit you ,might have to play with the toe-in ? One day when they are playing walk up to the TV, I bet you still get stereo almost touching the TV, they have  very wide coverage.

 

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I have them tucked to touching each wall on the 45 degree cut of the bass bin. Though it appears they are turned towards the direction the picture was taken. It's funny you mentioned about soundstage, as that was my very first impression. I'll reserve my overall impression until I have adequate time. I'm still starstruck on how effortlessly at low volumes they fill the room with sound. It feels thick, almost like a fog that you can reach out and touch in front of you. At the same time, the sweetspot is no longer as relevant. I get 99% standing or sitting anywhere in the room as I would sitting dead center of the couch. Sure you could fill the room with my rf7iis, but I couldn't do so with the ability to whisper across the room while doing so. 

 

Presently cooking in the kitchen, while it's adjacent to the room it feels like a jubilee is sitting in this room as well. Just incredible. 

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Here is the entertainment center. There are about 16 lag bolts into the studs in addition to each brace supporting 500lbs each. I have also safety wired each piece of equipment to the 3/4 plywood in the event we ever have an earthquake (CA). The wall of the house will need to come down before anything would fall. It also keeps the kids hands off the everything

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Cleaned up the legos, here they are. I've always loved Cherry, in the evening light the wood is very deep red and during the day it appears lighten up in color. Klipsch does a very good job with the veneer and is very picky to the grain matching. 

 

 

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Mod fixed. Thank you.

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Reserved for more

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On to leveling the horns. When they come, they are on the 0 setting. When I stood back, the horns appeared slightly tilted upwards. I will probably tilt them down more in the future, but for now I adjusted them to .5 and they are now level/straight with the bass bins.

The new terminals look awesome! To see them inside, you have to tilt your head and they are now red and black, absent the white wire you see with the previous version. This is a very appeasing improvement that future owners should greatly appreciate. 

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Trying to line up the holes is a bit difficult, so heres a tip. Take out your cell phone or use a flashlight and set directly over the small hole that is the most forward. Put it directly over top of the hole then slightly lift the horns base and peek inwards to align them. I found my cell phones small flashlight to make this process very easy, rather than poking around with a sharp object trying to find the hole in absolute darkness......

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Now that you have everything unboxed “WAIT” do not put the horns on top just yet. The horns do come with felt pads, however I could tell when they were on the hard floor of my kitchen that the weight of the horn and the screws underneath still protrude. I doubled up and put on thicker felt pads to ensure they wouldn't scratch the top of my bins. “HOLD ON” now before you put the horns on, there are two screws on top of the bass bins. These are holders that will keep the horns in place. They can also be rotated if so you so desire. Remove those screws. “NOW” you can put them on top of the bass bins. I would lift as much as possible and avoid sliding to avoid damage even with the felt pads.

 

 

 

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Oh hey there little guy!

 

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On sliding them out I placed the plastic on the back side that would be tilted down for a friction-less removal. Even if your fronts are not veneered, tilt them on the backside, lower and then lift the box. Sliding them on the plastic was effortless and I did not have a single scratch.

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>Disclaimer: This is how I unboxed and I was able to do this all out without incident, scratches, dents etc. Do what works for you. I did this all on my own. These things do weigh well over 250 lbs. I've grown up around very heavy farm equipment and I'm also a gym rat, so I felt comfortable moving these with care on my own. Proceed with how YOU feel comfortable<

I was able to open the tops of the boxes in a few minutes to examine the speakers. There were no tears in the plastic or dents upon their arrival. Fear not Klipsch actually has a good gap so when you slide the razor across the top, it should not touch the parts within. I would still recommend you use caution, as these are your babies from another mother.

After inspection, I signed off with the driver and began to start bringing them into my home. I have a single floor home and with the wife not being home, I grabbed two wheel dollies and slid the bass bins ontop strapped them down and proceeded inwards. I only had one 2' stair climb and was able to lift each dollie individually and work my way into my home without help.

 

Ok now they are in the home, so here are some pics on what it first looks like when unboxing. It was a bit awkward getting the horn out. I lifted by the brace only NOT the compression driver. Setting them off to the sides I then opened the bass bins. Surprise they come shipped upside down! Those shiny little guys are the floor sliders.

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