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I guess what I’m really asking is having had the Forte II and Chorus II in the past, does the Forte IV bring anything new/different sound-wise to the table or are they upgraded components with the same good old Klipsch sound I’d be used to. I suppose I should just try to audition them but nothing sounds the same in a store as in your living room.
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I realize this may be an apples to oranges question, but as someone who had and loved and wished he didn't get rid of his Chorus II's, I'm very curious about the Forte IV. If you HAD to compare the two, what would the major similarities and differences be?
For context, I sold my Chorus II's due to room size and once I heard my current Focal speakers, I thought they did everything a little better than the Chorus II's (clearer, more defined, less boomy, wider stage). I, like many who sell their Heritage speakers, am realizing the Chorus's just had a certain special magic to them that I'm now missing. I'm thinking the Forte IV would be a great gateway back from the dark side.
Thoughts? And thanks in advance.
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Sold to hoboBob86 on the forum! Many years of happy listening!
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Speaker 2 Images.
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Downsizing and have to let these babies go. Purchased in the Illinois area in fall 2019 from a gentleman who claimed to be the original owner. I've had them as my main speakers in a non-smoking home ever since. As you all know, they sound truly amazing.
- Oak Oil
- Sequential Serial #'s
- Crites Titanium Diaphragm Upgrades (originals included)
- Appleton/Neenah/Oshkosh area of WI-Willing to drive to meet within reason.
- Asking $1400 firm
In very good shape! Some wood oil would make em even prettier. One of the cones on the passive resisters is pushed in, but I never noticed any negative audible impact.
Images of Speaker 1 attached.
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That’s what I thought.
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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/288836299043617/
Yikes! Not affiliated.
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On FB Marketplace. Asking $1500/pair. They look nice! No affiliation.
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Seems like the 8ohm taps are where mine are staying. The bass sounds a little fuller and the overall sound has a bit more life to it compared to the 4ohm. The only reason I asked was due to the plethora of posts mentioning using 4ohm taps with Tube amps and Klipsch. At least with this particular amp and Chorus II, 8ohm is where they will be.
Thanks for the replies all!
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Yeah i'm reading a bunch on this and can't find a definite answer. Best i've gathered is just to try it and see if i can tell any difference and that it is really amp dependent. I'm using a budget Yaqin MC84l tube amp.
The back of the speakers themselves say 8ohm on the connectors. I've just swapped from the 4 to the 8 ohm taps on the amp and noticed it got louder immediately without adjusting the volume up. Of course louder isn't always better and its not like the 4ohm tap didn't give it more then enough volume control. My ultimate goal is to get the best overall sound at lower listening levels which is my primary listening mode.
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Looks like the specs list the Chorus II as 8ohm speakers but I've read some posts that confused me about that.
If my amp has taps for 4 or 8, what do you guys recommend in a smaller living room for moderate/quiet listening levels? I did try both and honestly couldn't tell any difference but wasn't sure what sound quality that really impacts.
Thanks all!
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3 hours ago, jimjimbo said:
This makes no sense. You don't see it as relevant? If you like the sound currently, then fine, do nothing, ignore all of the advice of those who have done this many, many times and enjoy the sound of your "vintage"crossovers. Dave and I and others here have measured literally thousands of capacitors in Klipsch speakers and other brands.and if you want to stick to the mantra of If it aint broke, don't fix it, well then that's up to you, but you will never know how good they can sound with an component upgrade, even a component upgrade that costs very little. Even Dayton Audio capacitors from Parts Express will far outperform the dried out or leaking older 30 year old caps that are currently in your speakers. Have fun.
Again, I appreciate the knowledgeable advice but where did i ever suggest i wouldn't be upgrading the crossovers at some point? I'm not sure what we're arguing about. I'm simply asking for those who've had both types of speakers to discuss their experience in comparing the two. Is your point that my efforts are a waste of time until i upgrade both sets?
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5 hours ago, Dave A said:
Well you have been advised to upgrade capacitors at the very least more than once. I have gone through dozens of sets of speakers from that time frame from Klipsch and not ONE had capacitors worth keeping. Yes it will make a difference and it will be the cheapest improvement you can make that is worthwhile. You like them now believe me they get better. I have a really good meter to measure inductance and capacitance and I have proven to myself that every single crossover from back then has bad capacitors with high ESR at the very least.
Yes, I understand i should replace the crossovers. It is a project for the future and was a given upon purchase but I just don't see its totally relevant here as I've already said how wonderful my Chorus II's sound in general. Are you suggesting you cannot evaluate any vintage speakers until all components are 100% up to date? And to that point, the Forte's are stock as well so it should be a wash as far as upgrades vs not go.
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27 minutes ago, StratCountry said:
Where are you located? I'm in West central WI.
Neenah, which is between Oshkosh/Appleton. I suppose that’s more Northeast WI now that I’m thinking about it.
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The second best pair of speakers I’ve ever heard (next to my Chorus II). Selling an original pair of legendary Klipsch Forte II loudspeakers in excellent condition with consecutive serial numbers. All drivers are stock.
Cosmetically they are near perfect. Sonically they sound brand new. Highly efficient and are happy with very with low power or high. I am the second owner, and they have always been very well cared for always in a smoke free house. They come with the original foam lined protective boxes from Klipsch. The previous owner had stained them the cherry color.
More pictures by request.
Asking $750 for the pair. Would be willing to meet buyer part way within reason.
http://www.audioreview.com/product/speakers/floorstanding-speakers/klipsch/forte.html
https://www.klipsch.com/products/forte-ii-floorstanding-speaker
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16 minutes ago, jimjimbo said:
What's your location? Makes a bit of difference.
North/Central Wisconsin (Oshkosh, Appleton, Neenah area).
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On 9/25/2019 at 10:40 AM, StratCountry said:
I have a chance to buy a pair of Forte II speakers in excellent condition. The owner says they were recapped and does have a pair of Crites crossovers for sale for $200.
Would there be any benefit (music sound quality) by adding the crossovers?
May I ask what you paid for them? Looking to sell my pair which are stock, and want to ask a fair price. Thanks and congrats. They are awesome speakers!!
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1 hour ago, jimjimbo said:
Interesting that you said the exact opposite on the first page of this thread.
You may have misread but i mentioned testing them at lower levels was going to be my deciding factor. It's at louder levels where i feel the bigness of the Chorus sound tends to overwhelm the nuances compared to the Forte. At mid-lower levels, the Chorus rules for sure. Again, at least in MY room.
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Well I think I’ve decided to keep the Chorus ii and work with room positioning. The full sound these things have is just amazing especially at lower levels which is where I think they beat the Forte. Lowering the volume on the Fortes to quieter conversation levels, I feel much of the depth disappears, unlike the Chorus.
Now the question is to upgrade crossover and tweeters or not?! I’ve read various opinions ranging from “if it isn’t broken don’t fix it” to “do it immediately”!
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4 hours ago, Dave A said:
HEY what happened to the rest of this thread?
Not sure what you mean? It's here in all it's glory that i can see.
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Please don’t think the Chorus don’t sound amazing, recap or not. What I’m saying is that they sound almost a bit “much” in my room compared to the Forte. It’s such a BIG sound that to me the Fortes just sound more mellow and nuanced. The Chorus are way more in your face.
Do others feel the same overall between these two speakers or is it just a “room” placement thing?
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15 minutes ago, Peter P. said:
You HAVE to consider aesthetics as part of choosing a speaker.
Sounds like the Forte's are a better match for your room size. Sonically, the Forte's play lower than the Chorus. Keep the Forte's, mail the Chorus's to me.
What does "play lower" mean. Do you mean bass frequency?
Thanks!
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55 minutes ago, jimjimbo said:
Since you have listened to them both in your room, it’s all about which one you like better… personally, I prefer the chorus over the forte, but that’s just me. Enjoy.
So in your opinion, what does the Chorus do for you that the Forte's do not? I started this thread to hopefully gain some incite and experiences from folks who've heard both which might help guide me in this ever important decision.
Don't get me wrong....I absolutely love the Chorus II's which is why this is difficult. I know it should just come down to my personal preference, but maybe my ears aren't the best judge in this case is my fear.
For example, when playing The Cars "You're all I got Tonight", the Chorus IIs make me bang my head and pump my fist and sounds like The Cars are rocking out in my living room. When played through the Forte's, it still rocks hard but also sounds more nuanced and detailed. Hope this makes some sense....its hard to describe "sound".
Yesterday i got it in my head that the Chorus ii's might be best for a single guy who loves to listen loud and rattle the house often, while the Forte ii's are perhaps more suited to lower levels and critical listening. Or that could be utter nonsense.
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Hi all! I was lucky to score nice pairs' of stock Forte ii and Chorus iis and after swapping them in and out of my living room to compare, I may be learning towards keeping the Forte's over the Chorus. I know this will ultimately come down to my preference, but am I crazy?! I've had each in for about a month of serious listening before moving between them.
I have a smallish living room where I sit about 8 feet back from the speakers, with them being in the corners about a foot out from the wall. While there is no doubt the Chorus ii's have the bigger/fuller sound, sometimes that "bigness" of sound seems to overpower the sweetness in the dynamics. The Forte's seem to retain that sweetness while also packing enough punch to rock the room.
My biggest decision will be based on which one sounds better at lower volumes, so that's what I'm still trying to decide.
So, is this just a case of the "better" speaker just not fitting well into the room design? I hate to get rid of the Chorus and greatly regret it down the line, but for now I think the Forte ii's just sound more "right" in my space.
Thoughts??
Klipsch Chorus II Speakers $1,700 Very Minty, Casco, MI *SOLD*
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Geez, I sold mine in August for less than these. And that was with the Crites titanium updates.