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    On ‎4‎/‎23‎/‎2019 at 8:00 AM, Bosco-d-gama said:

    Couple of points. 1st my experience is with noise I hear but do not actually observe. I do know the sounds I am hearing come from motorcycles but it could well be that I only hear the noisy cycles and the more muffled units glide by unnoticed by yours truly. 2nd it would be nice if my concerns were acknowledge as merit worthy. There are cities that pass sound ordinances and they do enforce them. Where I live we have an ordinance against the use of air brakes on trucks because of noise. So y’all can listen to the concerns of citizens or ignore them until they pass laws to regulate the problem. Being considerate of others is fundamentally worthy. 

     

    On ‎4‎/‎23‎/‎2019 at 8:58 AM, HDBRbuilder said:

    Pretty sure you meant engine exhaust "jake" brakes...right?  I don't like those either...not supposed to be used in town limits anyway!  They were originally designed to save brake shoes of semi rig brakes when going down steep slopes!...by using engine compression and choking what came thru the exhaust itself...increasing the "slow-down" factor.

    On ‎4‎/‎23‎/‎2019 at 9:15 AM, CECAA850 said:

     

     

    On ‎4‎/‎23‎/‎2019 at 9:15 AM, CECAA850 said:

    We have that ordinance in the town where I work.  Logging trucks frequently pass the business where I work and some use Jake brakes.  I'd classify them as loud and ratty sounding.  Nothing good about that sound but I do suppose that they help save brake pad wear.

     

    Jake brakes are a compression release basically, an engine brake not air brakes.

    They don't have to be loud but some trucks (loggers often) run straight pipes and un-muffled engine brakes.

    With a good exhaust system they aren't very loud at all, as for being legal in town it depends on the town.

    Some places have signs posted no engine or exhaust brakes and others do not. Some post no un-muffled exhaust brakes and some at certain hours of the day.

    I'm a driver, it's part of my job to know these things and pay attention to signage when I roll into a town.

    The main purpose of the "Jake" brake is to pervert brakes from overheating and failing going down a long steep grade.

    Brakes can get too hot and completely lose friction or even catch on fire if held on too long holding back a heavy load going down a big hill.

     

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  2. 19 hours ago, Islander said:

    I used to work with a guy who'd owned a Harley, a BMW, and a Gold Wing.  He told me each bike was a pretty good machine that he'd been happy with.  He also said that each one had its own cult following, and each one looked down on the other two.  He found all of it amusing.

    I find it amusing as well,I have friends I've ridden with that ride GoldWings and BMWs. Whatever gets yer knees in the breeze is what I say,it's all good.

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  3. On 4/23/2019 at 6:11 AM, HDBRbuilder said:

    I've been running Metzler for decades...they don't last a long time, but they are really excellent tires...if you can afford to replace them Like I have had to do way too quickly

    I ran 880s a long time and yes poor wear, not so with the new 888s. Much better wear same great handling.

  4. 1 hour ago, scalawag said:

    I consider myself fortunate to have owned two "stepchildren" of the HD family:  '90 FXRS-SP which I kept for 20 yrs, and my current ride, an '010 FXDF.  Both these bikes were controversial in their appearance relative to much of the MoCo's products, but are now somewhat esteemed by a small portion of the Harley riding populace.  I rode the FXR through the Mojave Desert on the way to the Grand Canyon, and both bikes have seen PCH-1 along CA's coastline and US-50 going up to Lake Tahoe.  I don't hit the road as much as I used to, but whenever I do, it still makes the day end better than when it started.

     

    To the OP: I can understand your angst regarding the unwelcome intrusion of hi-decibel exhaust tones from certain bikes, whether its the banshee wail of a high-revving 4/6cyl "track bike" or the rolling thunder of a big-bore v-twin.  Hopefully these raucous episodes are short-lived and spaced far apart; even more, I trust you won't develop any prejudices against the motorcycling public as the vast majority of them are really good people.

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    Very nice rides both, sure miss my old FXR. I had it ten years and did well over 100,000 miles on it.

    It was down all the roads you listed and many more, some of my favorite haunts! West coast rules!

    Remember the days before helmet laws? <sigh>

     

     

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  5. 9 hours ago, HDBRbuilder said:

     

     

    IMHO, the very most important two things on a motorcycle are the tires and brakes!  Both of those HAVE TO BE GREAT!

    I would put those things 2nd & 3rd with the rider being #1, I survived bikes with lousy drum brakes horrible suspensions brick with wheels handling and tires that by todays standards are laughable for quite a few years and many many miles before I got anything even remotely modern by today's standards. :happy:

  6. 9 minutes ago, Pete H said:

     Youth, what a wonderful time that we all wish we could transport to.  I would have kept the Chevelle and long been retired. 😃

    I hear that, a lot of cars I wish I had back but I just wish I could just be retired. lol

    Almost 63 and see no end of working in sight at this point. Not without selling my home and moving into a cardboard box anyways heh heh.

     

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  7. 11 hours ago, Bosco-d-gama said:

    Yet you say that the ‘sound’ of your ride puts you in a “zen” state.  These days you do not require the noise to ride fast. You say the noise is not to gain attention. So is it a pacifier - a sound that adds value to the experience and would detract from the experience if absent? From my perspective the only thing motorcycle noise effectively does is render the vehicle menacing which any number of riders and riding clubs do employ to ‘flex’ the power of their presence.

     

    If I hear you correctly the rowdy noise is a learned association with pleasure. If so have you ever tried riding without the noise? If not then you’re argument becomes a presumption. In fact you may find more pleasure riding w/o the unnecessary rumble. To be clear I do not want anyone to feel threatened with my concern. I am NOT dissing motorcycles or their riders, and I am not advocating against them. I am saying that they are unnecessarily made to be far too loud when for all practical purposes the excess noise adds nothing to the ride nor to the character of the rider. The take away is until you try riding silently you cannot make a valid argument for or against noise containment. On the other hand I have not done much riding at all so my perspectives are pretty limited as well. But I do read here that most bikers use ear plugs and other sound dampening devices - so noise is truly an issue for most folks.

    You simply do not understand and I see in this post the smack of stereotyping.

    Sure there are those types but as a whole H-D riders are as diverse a group as you'll ever find.

    In my travels I've meet people touring here and there from around the globe and from all walks of life,doctors,nurses,cops,firefighters,truck drivers,housewives you name it.

    I don't bar hop or cruise around town dressed like a pirate, I have no use for clubs or group rides much preferring to go alone or with one or two others I know well and trust to ride with.

    I avoid cities like the plague, I like country roads or long stretches of desert highway and even when I take weeks long multistate tours I tend to stay off the freeways and out of the cities as much as possible. As for the sound it's much more than just the sound it's the whole experience the vibes the feel of the machine connected to me but I wouldn't expect you to understand,I don't believe I stated that the sound puts me in a zen state at least that was not what I was trying to convey.

    The sound is only part of it and no other engine sounds or feels like a Harley,I hate the sound of even fire engines with loud pipes as there's no cadence that reaches the soul.

    Again I wouldn't expect you to understand and for the record (again) my bike has mufflers and there are some folks that ride completely stock H-Ds which are as quiet as any other make as they have to build under the same EPA guidelines as any other make.

    Your perception is based on your little area and what you see and hear there,mine is based on covering most of the country and meeting people along the way.

    It's been a million mile journey that continues as long as I can throw a leg over, hopefully quite a few years yet!

     

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  8. 3 hours ago, Pete H said:

    I rode for a lot of years (past tense) and beauty, or sound, is in the eye or ear of the beholder.  Every sound will be pleasing to some and offensive to others and as with life, the extremists on one side or the other, will have a basis for an argument.   I try to keep my music levels under offensive (understanding that's my definition and boundaries) most all of the time, but I piss people off that their level of tolerance is silence.  That said, when I was 16 rolling in my 69 Chevelle SS with a worked 396, hooker headers, thrush cherry bombs and bells at the end, it brought a really big grin when I could downshift into second, coming off the mountain and into town, letting it roll up to about 6000 rpm's and watch the porch lights come on, all the way down the street, but I was 16 and wouldn't do that today.  (That's a lie, I still would, but not nearly as often, and now I live in Ohio, and it's pretty darn flat)  LMAO.  

     

    My last 2 wheel ride was a BMW K1 and I never changed the factory exhaust on it and it was pretty quiet, but the CBX prior to that, not so much.  Looking to get back into riding, but I'll go adventure bike this time and go with a Beemer  R series.  Always wanted one and makes a great bug out bike for the zombie apocalypse.   

     

    Gotta love a big block Chevy,I had a '69 Camaro with a 427/4 speed. Originally a 327 small block car but I got my hands on the Corvette 427 and installed it my self in the days of my youth. I kept that car for 14 years, wish I had it back sometimes but my LS powered '01 SS gets a heck of a lot better gas mileage and is plenty fast .lol

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  9. 11 hours ago, HDBRbuilder said:

    I've owned  few harleys too...over the years...none of them newer models...which have much better handling characteristics than older ones do...the "look" that most Harley-owners try to achieve is what causes Harley to  keep the old straight-line geometry going....the Buell is a completely different thing...a 1200 sportster engine in a modified honda racing frame design...buell just adopted it for using Harley engines...making minor, but necessary fit and strengthening changes due to the engine's different torque curves/tranny ratios, etc.

     

    I've owned some really great bikes and a number of more-or-less suicidal machines, too...some bikes were poorly designed, , or even purposely left hanging in certain departments to save costs or rushed into production way too soon! 

    You've obviously never ridden an FXR series Harley, they had a hand built frame designed by Erik Buell when he was an engineer at the H-D Motor Company.

    Very different animal than the typical Harley and I know all about Buell's sportster based engines as well as their Rotax powered machine built towards the end and even the early machines before they used H-D power and the first H-D powered Buells which used the rare Harley XR1000 engines.

    Buell designed his own frames, they were not Honda Frames that's a myth as is the OHC water cooled V-Rod engine being built by Porsche but that's another story.

    I've ridden Buells ,very fun but too uncomfortable for my stature and age.

    I've owned several Sportsters including a later model rubber mounted Evo powered bike, I still have an English shift 1974 Iron in the garage (last year for right side shifting).

    As you say "The Look" is one of the reasons the FXR series was replaced with the Dyna and the other is the cost to manufacture them.

    Did you know they even made a sport touring version with a fixed fairing and hard bags?.

    There's not many around as the also didn't fit the profile sort of like the old Ironhead based café racer they built in the mid 1970's the XLCR.

  10. 3 minutes ago, Bosco-d-gama said:

    Of course the purpose of a ‘vehicle’ is transportation, the sound made by that vehicle is entirely collateral. From the get-go the noise they made caused problems for others. Horses did not like the putt-putt cars.  If they could have been made quieter easily from the start I believe they’d have been made that way. Now, for some, the noise is apparently needed to gain attention. Look at me, here I come, mine is louder - whatever. Does the volume or character of a loud vehicle make anyone better, smarter, better looking, or better at anything? On a personal level - not one bit. 

    In total disagreement, most of the time when I ride or drive there's no one there to "Look at me" and I could care less.

    The bike and car in the garage I don't use for transpo I use them for fun, I have a different daily driver for transpo.

  11. 42 minutes ago, richieb said:

    ^^^^^

    === with all due respect ( a BMW owner here too x2) it’s all about rider skill rather than the bike or its perceived intent.

    A skilled rider with miles under his belt can hustle a Goldwing through the curvies far better than one can imagine. 

    Skill, little fear, great rubber and a properly tuned suspension works wonders on any bike and pays big dividends on a GW.

    A couple friends will and do lay waste to much sportier machines on GW’s. 

    Tires are a big deal, I've been running Metzler 888's on the Hog and my friends get left in the dust and can't figure out why, they have the stock HD Dungflops still on that the stealer sells.

  12. 3 hours ago, HDBRbuilder said:

    BMW R-bikes are sport tourers...Gold wing is heavy tourer...like the difference between mini-van which handles OK, and a sport touring sedan which can eat up the twisties two-up with a load....very different frame geometry between gold wing and what I have.... whereas Harley has straight-line frame geometry....like a rail dragster. 

    It wasn't about handling characteristics, I have ridden both and as for Harleys there are many different models over the years with many different frame styles.

    I had an FXRS years ago (Erick Buell deigned frame) and it would run through the corners with those Beemers no problem,it was an early 1984 model and the lightest weight modern  big twin Harley ever built . My Electra is a heavy weight touring bike and it handles better that people give it credit for.

  13. 7 hours ago, Bosco-d-gama said:

    I don’t think the bikers coming through here are intentionally being noisy. It just does not take much because of the geography. But they do come in caravans and that’s quite extreme.

     

    Curious how a throaty car or bike adds to its persona and by extension its owner/driver. Maybe in time tastes/expectations will change and a silent electric rage ravaging the highways will gain favor. Personally I like road travel to be free from road/car noises. Interesting too that this all began just over a century ago. Before the internal combustion engine road noise was the clopping of hooves. Trains were/are noisy but were/are nowhere as prevalent as personal vehicles. Oh well...... such is life. Appreciate your thoughts.

    Well different strokes for different folks as they say, a saying I've heard comparing a Harley and a Honda Gold Wing (could also be a BMW)

    They say riding a Gold Wing is like going to a symphony where as riding a Harley is like going to a rock concert.

    I also like loud fast cars (go figure) and have owned quite a few, Camaros being a particular favorite.

    Current car is a 2001 Camaro SS with far too many mods to list here, built for canyon carving it's a 6 speed manual with plenty of extra horsepower and nothing left of the stock suspension.

     

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  14. 11 hours ago, Bosco-d-gama said:

    Ah spring, finally I get to start working on the yards and enjoying them. I live where mountains channel out onto a prairie. Essentially I live in the throat of a giant natural horn. Spring also means the return of motorcycles, in singles and throngs. Traffic noise of any level resonates and amplifies around here and motorcycles, well they can be quite a nuisance.

     

    Okay, I definitely understand that many here are motorcycle fan(atic)s and I would never suggest that any of you should curtail your enthusiasm for open air riding. But we now have the advent of truly serious and capable electric motorcycles that offer the wonderful addition of a more silent power plant. So how important is the rumble and roar to the experience of being a biker? Would riders be just as happy, or perhaps happier, riding a quieter high powered electric bike? Off road vehicles have the same problem. Imagine a pristine snowfall deep in the forest and the addition of whining snowmobiles permeating the landscape for miles around. It is noise pollution that can now be controlled. Would any of you motorcyclists consider electric for your next purchase? 

    Not a chance, my Harley makes it's own kind of music and it's got a primal beat to it like no other make has.

    Mind you it has mufflers not straight pipes like many  (been there done that in my younger daze).

    I become one with the machine and get into a kind of Zen thing where nothing else maters.

    I would liken riding a sterile electric motorcycle verses a Harley to riding a carrousel horse rather than a real live flesh and blood horse that stomps and snorts and can even be unruly at times. 

    I too live in the PAC NW up in the foothills of the Cascades where some of the best riding to be had on planet Earth resides and believe me I've been around (somewhere near 1,000,000 miles worth on 2 wheels over 50+ years).

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  15. What a great story! My uncle Joe (Mom's closest brother) was Army, he died in the Philippines in 1943 and is buried in Manila.

    I wish I knew more about him, unfortunately Mom is 94 as of today (yup it's her birthday 4/19) and has Alzheimer's.

    She  was the youngest of 6 children and the only still surviving.

    She's late stage now and unable to communicate, hindsight is 20/20 but if only I had learned more when I was younger. <sigh>

     

  16. 1 hour ago, Woofers and Tweeters said:

     Taking away from the ones who earn something to give to ones who didn't earn it encourages neither to work harder to do better.  

    This is why socialism fails every time. No incentive to excel in anything, why bother when there is nothing to gain.

    With capitalism the sky is the limit, it breeds creativity because there are rewards for one's hard work and invention.

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  17. I'm mostly white, a little injun blood in me (more than Elizabeth Warren but I don't claim to be a native American).

    I'm not particularly angry but it does wear thin being bashed all the time and told I should hold my head in shame for being white.

    I must have missed the day in school when they handed out the "white privilege cards" because nothing ever came easy for me.

    I had ADHD before they had a name for it, dropped out of high school and struggled for years trying to make my way in life.

    Had the rug yanked out from under me more times than I can count  but clawed my way back surviving the Carter era recession and later the Obama era recession.

    Now I'm pushing 63 years of age, making good money driving truck and have a pretty nice home in the country but it wasn't white privilege that got me here

    it was perseverance and a lot of hard work, I've worked with blacks and Hispanics and never got any preferential treatment because I'm white.

    At this point I don't see an opportunity to retire any time soon if at all, SSI isn't even beer money at 62 and I still have a mortgage.

    I'm not angry but a little disappointed that after 50+ years working (started at 10 picking berries by the flat) and paying into the system what they offer is way below what's considered poverty income.

    My Dad survived the Great Depression, he turned 18 just before the crash in 1929 and had been on his own since he was 13, I was raised by a man that expected self reliance.

    He came from poverty and made his way on his own through the worst of times and expected the same from me.

    Am I angry? Well no not really but I do get tired of all the PC BS and being called out for being a white male when I made my own way in life through the school of hard knocks.

    Here's a pic of my Dad in his last year of school (8th grade) in the 1920's before he ran away from home due to stepdad issues, no white  privilege there, half the class were Indians. (lol)

    He's the ornery looking cuss in the lower right corner in the overalls ,no school bus

     for him he rode a plow horse to school and worked on the farmstead when he got home until dark. No white privilege there either but he was never bitter or angry about where he came from, he became a home building contractor and did pretty well.

     

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  18. 20 hours ago, emmvette said:

     

    I've boxed and shipped a pair. You need to be able to build a wood crate to put them in and set it on a pallet.  Really, the only decent way you can make this happen for a reasonable cost is if you have a friend that works at a place with a doc and they can load and ship them with a forklift.  The eliminates the high cost of having a lift gate truck with a pickup at a private residence.  A local sale is much easier...

     

    Thanks,I pretty much came to that conclusion myself so it's not likely going to happen. I just don't have time for it and I live out in the sticks 30 miles from the city.

    Too bad ,had a guy that really wanted my Speakerlab Super K's but he's in Ohio and I'm in Washington (state).

  19. 8 hours ago, billybob said:

    Dang, lol I reckon so...have to show bro...he is an older dude that is Chevy since a teen...thanks again!!!

    Have the next older bro same thing....Cool.

    I'm no spring chicken either at 62,when I was in my early 20s I knocked around in a '69 Camaro with a big block 427/4speed. Sure miss that one.

  20. 28 minutes ago, billybob said:

    Lol, well then you do not have owner's headaches. Figured you took it seriously. That is pretty serious hours. Those hobbies cost money like you know. Happy I ran into you...Hoping my brother out at times with his rods. Latest is putting an LS motor in one of his Ratrods...fun stuff. Thanks for the pics...and enjoy those K-horns...

    Ahh yes, I love LS power, I have a 2001 SS Camaro LS1 6 speed manual with just 89K on the clock.It's loaded with leather and all the caddy stuff as well as a kick azz stereo.

    It's got LS6 heads with a lumpy cam and associated parts, long tubes and no cats (400rwhp), aluminum flywheel and LS7 clutch with a Tick Perf. adjustable master,lowered on Sam Strano springs with Strano sway bars,UMI tube K-member and A arms and all tube torque arm panhard rod and lower control arms with subframe connectors and a driveline loop and riding on Koni shocks. It's set up as a canyon carver riding on sticky 18" Michelin Pilot Sports,275's up front and 315's in the back. Fun little car that can run with cars that are a lot more expensive.

     

     

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  21. Has anyone here ever shipped a set of K-horns?

    I posted my Speakerlab  Klipschorn clones for sale on craigslist and got a call from a guy in Ohio who wants them really bad but I'm out on the West coast in Washington state.

    Is it crazy to even think of shipping these beasts out there?

    I tied UPS and FedEx shipping calculators but didn't have much luck trying to get a price.

    I can palletize them but I don't have a forklift to put them in my pickup so I guess I'd need to have a carrier with a liftgate and pallet jack pick them up.

    I was a little surprised to get a call from someone that far away but after a chat I'm sure he is genuine and not a scammer.

    I'm thinking shipping costs may well be a deal breaker but if someone has found a way and done it before I'm all ears.

  22. 1 hour ago, WillyBob said:

    You have all kinds of room to put a "tool box" behind the cab.

    we used to run Nogales AZ to Alsip IL every 8 days... Still had time to get into trouble. Back in 55mph days.

    I like being home more than the $$$

     

    I sure don't miss the 55 mph days but I can still get into trouble if not careful, the T-800 I spend most of my time in is a 70 mph truck, we have a couple that will run 80+.

    I'm pretty careful where I let it all hang out, there's places out here in the far west where you can really haul especially if you know where the speed traps are.

    I haven't had a ticket in 10 years (knock on wood).

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  23. 9 hours ago, billybob said:

    Hay now, looking pretty good now. Gave up my road job short haul back to back weekends. Tally to Tampa run. Spent the first run in a motel. Guess the super. may have wondered. After 5+ years retired, lol.

    Talk radio for me then cause could not handle no Klipsch.

    Dang looking like your own rig...dang again...

    Nope not an owner I just drive the same truck most of the time ('07 KW T-800/CAT twin turbo c15 Acert/18 speed) and I'm paid hourly which is another thing I like about this job.

    I don't sweat it when I get caught in traffic or have other delays, that said I'm not one of those lazy hourly guys I bust *** and run hard,61.75 hours this week and 69 hours last week. The boss appreciates my work ethic and treats me pretty well not to mention I'm one of if not the highest paid driver he has.

    Most weeks are somewhere in the 50-60 hour range, weekends are usually optional but I work quite a few Saturdays to support my hobbies like Harleys hotrods and buying stereo gear such as the Klipschorns I just picked up. lol

    I get in other trucks once in a while depending on what needs to be done and who else is working what job etc.etc..

     

     

     

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