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1 hour ago, Dave A said:
We will all pile on with our opinions and comments though because wire and capacitors demand we do so.
True... resistance is futile.
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2 hours ago, soundbound said:
I appreciate your enthusiasm and you posting your results. A lot of us have done what you have. I know you got differences and improvements of what you’ve done, but I posts about your heightened wires and connectors claims, because this is a forum to discuss and sometimes disagreeing can be part of that, so you need to be ready to affirm and debate your claims and accept others opinions and findings that may not coincide with yours. It’s good you’re upgrading, enjoying doing them, and hearing improvements. It’s all good. Keep on keeping on.
A few years ago I was speaking with a couple of Grammy award winning record producers. When I told them I wanted to start a studio featuring a tube console, they looked at me like I had two heads. "Why would you want to do that?" one of them said. I forgot my response, but it's because I like that sound. I later spoke with another hardware/software engineer at the same event, and we talked about tube consoles and sonic signatures. He was amazed that I could distinguish his father's tube console sound from the '60s on modern records. His response was "If you can hear that, you've got really good ears".
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5 minutes ago, soundbound said:
You’re wrong. I’ve done it and most likely others have too, but I didn’t get the results you claim.
And Crankysoldermeister is a qualified audio person who has enough experience to know what he post.
We all have different sound setups and experience. I'm very new to this tube amp/Klipsch speaker thing. My experiments have been pretty simple, but very revealing.
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Just now, billybob said:
Well, what it comes down to is what you believe.
I'd take experience over belief. It's a Guitar Center thing. Wimpy cables sound ok, until you plug in the lower gauge wire. Higher quality thick cables are more inspiring to play through. As soon as this covid thing is over, I'll be back to live instruments. Real drums, bass, guitars, etc., are always present in my imagination. I know when something sounds wimpy, and I do my best to avoid it.-
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7 minutes ago, soundbound said:
To me Paul McGowan speaks lots of words in his videos, but says little and very basic which some I disagree with.
In this video he says, “Have I done experiments to see if it really makes a difference, no I haven’t...” and “Maybe it doesn’t make a difference, but it offends me...” So this is not a good video to state your claims.
It really does come down to experimenting with different wiring on your own. So far, I'm the only one in this discussion group that has done that.
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Just now, Crankysoldermeister said:
BS
You'll never know until you try it. Set up a sound test with a few of your audiophile folks, and keep score for me.
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54 minutes ago, Crankysoldermeister said:
I tell people not to change the wire unless they have to. The stock wire is tin coated annealed copper. It protects the copper from corrosion. Unless the jacket is damaged, it's hard to do better.
Better has been done. This is the third Klipsch set I've owned, and I've swapped out the old wire each time with an upgrade in sonics.
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1 hour ago, babadono said:
Especially changing a foot of 18 ga to 10 ga to get to the tiny wire that the voice coil of a woofer is made of
Whatever floats your boat. As long as you're in the woofer chamber might as well change the wire, right?
Psychoacousticly it is going to make a huge difference.
It's not imagined. Try it for yourself and see. Klipsch does this on their new speakers for a reason.
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2 hours ago, soundbound said:
It looks like he’s not using a crimping tool.
He (me) is using a crimping tool. I took them out again to give a better squeeze.
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Old wire. Out!
New wire in. Much better. The end.
1 hour ago, Crankysoldermeister said:In case there was any doubt, I was being facetious.
Oh... in that case... I'm right, and you're wrong. That's the way it goes with these ears.
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7 hours ago, Islander said:
I’m surprised that someone would want to sell these almost-new speakers. Haven’t they been on sale for only a few months?
Some people are mad traders. In astronomical telescopes for home enthusiasts, the two main brands are Meade and Celestron. One guy commented in an astronomy magazine that he based his choice of brand that he’d buy on the increments between sizes (sizes of the primary mirrors) of the various models. One brand went 5”, 8”, 10”, 12”, and 14”. The other brand skipped the 12” size, so that was no good to him, because he wanted the experience of moving up, one step at a time, and he wanted a steady progression, with no overly large leaps between sizes.
When you get into the 10” and 12” scopes, they’re pretty big by hobbyist standards, and pretty expensive, too, so this guy didn’t need to look for bargains, or even consider buying used. Although I don’t think like that (and those values seem so skewed from what seems normal to me, who would just buy the biggest one I could afford, and get to using and enjoying it), my attitude about that is like my attitude about guys that spend more time polishing their motorbikes and bolting on more chrome accessories than they do riding them. It’s not us guys who keep the dealers in business, it’s those guys, so I don’t even try to understand them, I just say or think, “Carry on, dude. Whatever makes you happy.”
EDIT: Okay, it is some of us guys who make the dealers happy, especially the lucky guys (you know who you are) who can pre-order The Jubilee. I’m just looking forward to hearing about how they sound.
True. It reminds of Fender guitars. The reason they loved Jimi Hendrix so much was because he would destroy his guitar as performance art, and then buy a new one. This was very good news for the Fender factory. The Gibson factory, a competitor, started making guitars with a weak neck for certain performers, which allowed the guitar to be smashed with greater ease. Art!!
As far as this seller goes, I believe he is a DJ. If that is true, he would buy new speakers for a specific high end gig series, and then sell them. DJs consider it a rental. It's pretty easy if you're charging over $2,000 per appearance.
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24 minutes ago, pallpoul said:
Are those CW's in the back?
Not sure. They look like Quartets.
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I'm out of the dog house.
I opened them to install 10AWG wire for the woofers, and the difference is very nice! Upright bass is more distinct, and I can hear the space and depth of the recording stage around the bass. Vocals that make it down to the woofer are much more engaging and present. It's such a simple mod. I'm sure this is why the new Klipsch lineup uses better speaker wire.
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7 minutes ago, uteman1011 said:
Gone!! Has been deleted from CL.
That was a great deal for somebody.
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10 hours ago, Flevoman said:
Is the aluminum tweeter the original tweeter?
And why do you think the aluminum tweeter sounded better than the titanium tweeter
I read a lot of positive things about the titanium Tweeter namely
They are made by a forum member. I've used them for my Heresys and now my La Scalas. They give you a wider sound stage of natural highs, and are very engaging. My titanium tweeter upgrades were brighter, but far less natural and narrow by comparison.
If cost is a factor, do the titanium. If it isn't, get these instead:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/224152702930?hash=item34308acfd2:g:6jcAAOSwBF5d5TWS
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12 minutes ago, RandyH said:
now that's a great deal ....
Yep. There's a dealer or reviewer or dj nearby that sells like new Klipsch speakers once in a while. This may be one of his.
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6 hours ago, Flevoman said:
damping the midhorn or perhaps a titanium diaphragm should fix this
You would like the aluminum LMAHL tweeter over the titanium diaphragm. I've had both, and the aluminum tweeter is much, much better.
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29 minutes ago, Flevoman said:
Here in the Netherlands we have pair of Fortes for sale, good condition.. 2250,-
I think its really funny when I see older American topics where people ask if 600 dollar is a fair price for the Forte 2 😄
Oh boy, I wish we had this position to choose from different heritage speakers and for that amount of money....
I had the same speaker lineup: Heresy I, Chorus II, and then vintage La Scalas. I really wanted the La Scala first, but got the Heresy and Chorus so I could experiment with mods. Now I only have the La Scalas, and they have benefited nicely from my earlier experiments.
Get your La Scalas out of storage. La Scalas have great power, and you must use your upgrade powers for good.
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1 minute ago, Flevoman said:
😅😅.... Duhhhhh
I really haven't seen your links at all 😂
Yes, I must have clicked the wrong button or something, but here's the link.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/194266046636?hash=item2d3b28a0ac:g:49oAAOSwoQphBsMx -
26 minutes ago, Flevoman said:
@pcbiz thank you for sharing this.
So you covered the midhorn with a dampingmaterial?
I did a Google search on it and then I find a lot of options.
Can you please send me a link to the correct material that you have used?
This is what I used. Very easy to work with.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/194266046636?hash=item2d3b28a0ac:g:49oAAOSwoQphBsMx26 minutes ago, Flevoman said: -
On 3/6/2022 at 12:54 AM, Flevoman said:
Only I noticed that the Heresy 2 sounded just a bit fresher. A little less nasal, a little less like a horn. And I also had the idea of a little more dynamics in the sound.
I had the same issue with my Chorus IIs. You need to apply Kilmat or some other matting material to the mid horns. That will take out the nasal effect immediately, and produce a more natural sound.
Your internal wiring upgrades look nice. That alone will give you more presence, definition and tighter bass. If you'd like, you can try 10AWG copper wire to see if that helps.
This is also a much better tweeter. I used the Crites titanium diaphragms in my Chorus II speakers, but this tweeter would have been a whole lot better. I used this brand in my Heresy I speakers with great results.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/224152702930?hash=item34308acfd2:g:6jcAAOSwBF5d5TWS
My first La Scalas
in Technical/Restorations
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I think the AL5 sounds better than my version of the La Scala... but I'm sure it's just a placebo thing.