Kalam

Yes, that seems to be the case. Mine work similarly, that everytime I turn off the TV, I have to fiddle with the app when putting the TV on again. Otherwise it starts from "default". Extremely annoying..

I'm quite disappointed with the update, and difficult for me to understand why they release updates that have not been thoroughly tested. My problems: -Volume knob became unusable as you need to spin it like a flywheel to get any noticeable difference to the sound level -The eq is basic with only 3 bands to adjust. The problem with the Fives muffled sound has been extensively discussed in these forums, and solution is in the pic below, hello anyone at Klipsch! The same cannot be achieved with three bands only -I've been considering of investing in a sub to clean the midrange response, but I'm now reluctant to do that given the mentioned subwoofer problems mentioned in this thread. The only improvement with the app was the "vocal" mode for TV usage, but it just beefs up the midrange, making it more audible, but sound is still a bit like "behind the pillow", not clean.

What I don't get is all the reviews shouting how the Fives are a perfect soundbar replacement for which they are not in my opinion without EQying. Is it groupthink among the reviewers, or do they all have a setup that they can place the speakers absolutely perfectly, and do not test the speakers located so that they would normally be placed in homes? Funnily enough my first issue with the speakers was way too much bass, but with the EQ adjustments suggested by you, even the normal amplified bass mode does not sound too bad. As rear ported speakers they are heavily also influenced by placement, hence EQ should be a standard. Anyhow, I have hard time believing that the behind the pillow sounding mids would be all due to placement.

Glad to see there's been new discussion on the thread since my last visit. I did roughly the same adjustments as fred above, suggested by dcisive and boy does it make a change! The pillow effect is totally gone, and the sound is so much better! It's actually perfect now, there is clarity in midrange and highs are more airy. I can only do this when streaming from my phone, so it does not help the TV use. I'm not willing to compromise the HDMI use which was the main reason I went for these speakers.

I tend to think exactly as Helder here. If Klipsch released a Bass cut mode, why not release a mode which further increases the highs and mids a bit (keeping the bass cut in place!), while they are developing the app. I got hooked to the Fives with the idea of having not to buy any other equipment, pre-amps, amps, receivers and getting them turned on by just powering the TV. I can only place them max 25cm away from the back wall which is not helping the bass issue. THey are now located on the TV stand on at the same level as the TV. Have been thinking of buying small stands for them so that I could lift them up may be by 20cm. Don't know if this could help the bass to be less boomy and the highs to be clearer. Anyhow SET, thanks for telling about the EQ possibility with Fosi. Kalam

Good to hear that you got the bass sorted out. I'm reasonably happy with the bass cut mode, need to do some experimenting with placement/room furnishing to get rid of the slight boom in the listening place. I'm the same, I'm still a bit disappointed by the voice and highs presentation. I've tried some small stands and toeing the speakers as well a bit, but can't tell any difference. Anyways the bass is not a big thing. It's a bit boomy on the sofa, but if I move around in the room having the Fives play background music, it's actually quite good. While the HDMI arc is connected I cannot change any of the roughly 20 sound adjustments I Have in the TV. except the volume of course. Hence my suspicion that TVs enhancement does not influence the sound for the Fives but the input to the speakers is the unadjusted broadcast. I'm not sure if the speech clarity is the right word here, it's more the volume level of speech compared to other sound in the TV broadcast.

I did some further tests and plugged the rear ports of the Fives. This seems to open up the sound a bit, and of course considerably decreases the bass, by too much actually. Not something I would do for long term use as I have no clue how that would impact the cooling of the speakers. I have three separate issues, which I think may or may not impact each other: 1. Bass even in Bass cut mode is a bit too much. This I say is due to placing of the speakers and the room itself. I can only place the speaker about 20cm from the wall, which seems to be not enough for rear-ported speaker. Also the sofa where I listen to is on the opposite wall. If I listen in the middle of the room, there is no boom in the bass, it's tight and fast. Listening on the sofa creates a slight boom. 2. Speech volume level/clarity is inferior to my TV. This I think is due to the TV's speech enhancement function, as in normal music this is not an issue. I tend to listen TV in low volume which makes this a bit of an issue, but depends hugely on the TV program and its recording. As a soundbar replacement such function in my opinion should be available for the Fives via the app. I hope time takes care of this issue 3. Highs are slightly muffled. This I have not found to be "curable" by the placing, may be its just the "colour" of the sound with these speakers. There is a slight difference to all my other references, which are not necessarily hifi standard. Again, EQ availability should be a default from my point of view. Number 2 and 3 I believe should be fixable by the app, if Klipsch chooses to do so. Number 1 is not something I would so much blame on the speakers. There is a lot of great qualities to the sound, like stereo image, how they fill the room etc. And from my PoV there is a potential for superb sound. It may be the case for someone already who can place the speakers well, and always listens TV on reasonably high volumes for the speech not to be an issue.

I have the same problem as Helder, and I do not believe it's either hardware issue, nor me not liking the Fives sound. The speech clarity is better when I use my TVs own speakers over the Fives. Overall the sound quality of the Fives is superb, but they feel a bit muffled on the highs, even with Bass cut mode when playing music. Many TVs like mine have speech enhancement feature, which I assume is bypassed with HDMI arc connection. May be this makes the difference. I'm hoping that the app would eventually have such feature in addition to EQ. Even with Bass cut mode, the sonic balance is a bit bass heavy, making the sound not so clear, especially on low volume levels. One option to overcome this might be to connect a subwoofer, which would allow to control the bass levels.