Kjunkie

Were they the KLF20s for $500 on CL? I bought my 20s new back in 2000 when they were being closed out. About a year ago, mine began to deteriorate in a way that is hard to describe. I bought the Crites crossovers and TI tweeters. The difference is huge.

I recently bought a pair of rf 7s with the Dave G upgrades installed. I have them in the same space with 2000 era unaltered Belle Klipsch and KLF20s with Crites crossovers and tweeters. The RF7s have much clearer highs, deeper punchier bass and much better imaging than the KLF20s. Compared with the Belle Klipsch, the mid and high frequencies and imaging were similar, but of course, the bass was no contest between them. I have a pair of Klipschorn AK3 in a different home, so I haven't heard them side by side. However I think these RF7s would compare very favorably with the mighty Klipschorn. What a deal! Not sure if I'm going to keep the Belle Klipsch. RF7s occupy much less space, and the HF driver is at ear level, no sub is needed. Anyone else have similar experience?

When I first connected them, I didn't have much time. I replaced my Cornwall IIs with the new (to me) Klipschorns. I have a pair of KLF20s also connected o the same Yamaha 2600 7.1 receiver. I didn't do anything more than just switch the wiring. I turned them on, with the same settings which were present the last time I was in that space. The KLFs were set up so I could A/B them. KLFs sounded great, and in comparision with the Khorns, they sounded much better. Three weeks later, when I made it back to where the Khorns are, after checking the wiring for phase issues, I checked the reciever settings. Surround sound!#$%@. Once I switched to pure direct....MAGIC. and I mean MAGIC!! KLFs still sound great, but not anything like Khorns. As a side note: I knew my Cornwalls had crossover issues, so on this trip I replaced the original 1986 crossovers with new ones from Crites. The difference is amazing. I bought the Cornwalls from a gentlemen who had them for a while but wanted to upgrade to something different. I think if he had done some research he would have saved some serious money by just renewing what he already had. (I'm fortunate that he didn't because for $500 plus the crossovers and titanium tweeters, I have a great sounding pair of Cornwall IIs.)

It was all in the aplification. WOW. Klipschorns ARE what everyone say they are. Nothing like 'em. Thanks for suggestions. All is well!

The drivers seem to be functioning properly, but they sound out of phase. Image is confused, bass is there but very low volume. The sound is almost annoying. I reversed one of the wires to make sure they were pushing and pulling together, but it was very obvious they were NOW out of phase. I rewired with red to red, black to black and sound was better, but still not pleasant. I wired the Legend 20s back in, and they sounded great. They are not located in my primary residence so I didn't have much time to work with them before I had to go back home. Very odd. Thanks in advance for suggestions!

I did buy the Belle, Klipschorn and Heresys. The Belle set are the best of everything I own. Cosmetically they are perfect and the sound is superior, although not by much. Klipschorn polarity was the first thing I checked. Just to make sure, I wired them out of phase which made them worse. i have a set of KLF20s next to them. a/b: the Legends are much better, which tells me I have a problem!

About 20 years ago I bought a set of KLF 20s and KLF 10s. I spent a few evenings at Circuit City trying to figure out which ones I wanted.....eventually I just bought both and have enjoyed them immensely. (they sounded different from each other, but depending on the music played, I couldn't decide which one I liked best. They were heavily discounted, so I bought them both). Last year I decided to update my system and started looking on CL for used Klipsch speakers. Unfortunately, you can't just go to a store make your choice in person. I bought and hauled home one by one over the past year and a half: Cornwall II Reference 3 (RF3. For $80. These things are amazing!) Forte Chorus II Epic 3 KLF20 (second set. price was so low I couldn't leave them) Last month a Klipschorn came available at a price I was willing to pay. I went to the house and in the garage next to the nearly perfect KHorns from 1990 was a mint set of Belle Klipsch from 2000 with matching set of Heresy IIs bought at the same time. I don't know if this will make sense to anyone else, but after spending some time playing with this mess, I've come to the conclusion that aside from appearance, I'd be happy with any of them. They all make my favorite music sound wonderful. My favorite set up 5.0 is: Chorus II front KLF20 rear Epic center. Two channel favorite is Belle. I did the Crites tweeter and crossover upgrades on my original 20s. WHAT A DIFFERENCE THAT MADE!!!! A/B they are slightly different but difficult to describe and unless immediate A/B switching hard to detect. The Khorns are in a second home in another state. I hauled them up there, placed them in the corners on the long wall of a nearly perfect sized rectangular room. I turned them on and was horribly disappointed with what I heard. Unfortunately I didn't have much time to work with them, so I'm hoping someone else had a similar experience and can help me identify what I've done wrong.