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On 11/7/2021 at 6:20 PM, Islander said:

In my own experience, with a pair of JubScala IIs (highly modded bi-amped La Scala IIs), and a single 400-watt 10” direct-firing sub, all was well.  It produced what seemed to be a fine amount and quality of bass-range music.  Then, I decided to replace that sub with a more modern 850-watt 10” direct-firing sub from the same company, Paradigm, because I felt that I’d been missing the lowest octave of music, since the new sub went about 5 Hz deeper, 18 Hz versus 23 Hz.

 

While the new sub did go much deeper, with more authority/power, now I had an extreme (+20 dB) bass peak centred about a metre/yard in front of the sofa.  At first, I wondered if my favourite Net Radio station had cranked up the bass for some reason, since I often passed through that space during the day and couldn’t help noticing the odd bass-heavy sound in the room.  Then I realized that it was happening in just that area and figured it out, so I bought and installed a second matching sub, another Paradigm Seismic 110.  Now, the bass sound level was consistent throughout the room, plus the added power gave the sound a fuller, more rounded, more realistic feel.  

 

This is what I was after!  Now, the system had a sound that seemed complete in a way that I hadn’t heard before.  It’s like it was the missing link that allowed the system to finally reach its potential, as a satisfying sound that had been just out of reach all the while. Your mileage may vary, of course, since your room and your system is different from mine, but maybe this bit of knowledge and experience could be helpful to you in your quest for great sound.

Sorry that it took me so long to get back to this. Somehow my browser would not let me on the site.

 

Anyways, thank you for your input. I’ve been very happy with my system the way it is now. Added a tube headphone amp and a pair of Beyerdynamics T1.2. 
sadly, now I got the itch for a tube amp lol

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All wires are run and both subs are now running in stereo. Had to crank the gain up quite a bit but it sure sounds great. I used Armin Van Buren - This is a test  to straighten it out and I’m super happy with the outcome.

 

Thanks to this community for helping me out with advice. It’s much appreciated.

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On 10/2/2021 at 11:38 PM, wuzzzer said:

 

Get a second sub that's the same as your current one.  If you can't find one, sell the one you have and buy two identical subs.  It's very difficult to get two different subs to play well together.

I got the matching one wired in via LFE and it sounds absolutely fantastic! I want to try hooking them up in stere before I run all my cables permanently. But, so far, this is absolutely amazing.

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23 minutes ago, wuzzzer said:

 

I believe the OP is in Canada so Cory wouldn't be an option.

Thats ok. I found a matching sw-110. just not sure about the price yet. It’s 275cad including shipping

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10 minutes ago, Westcoastdrums said:

Contact

 

https://paducahhometheater.com/

 

He's a member here.  He can help you out. 

Thank you

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9 hours ago, wuzzzer said:

 

Get a second sub that's the same as your current one.  If you can't find one, sell the one you have and buy two identical subs.  It's very difficult to get two different subs to play well together.

That’s pretty much what my original plan was 

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38 minutes ago, jjptkd said:

Quartets are a decent sized speaker and solid down to 45-50hz so stereo subs really aren't needed a good LFE or multiple LFE's should be sufficient up to a certain sized room. In a perfect world you'd want stereo subs with the Quartets and a separate LFE or four. 

I’ll see what our local store has and check the prices. Thank you

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36 minutes ago, yamahaSHO said:

 

105 dB/w vs 97.5 and the same rated power handling is all you really need to understand.  IE: MUCH louder.

Ok, yes, I get that. Thanks

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3 minutes ago, yamahaSHO said:

Wattage shouldn't be a decision factor here...  A good sub may or may not need a lot of power.  I had a sub I built that used a BASH 300 and it had plenty of power to drive my sub out of its magnetic field.  Up to that point, that's playing very loud music with a set of La Scala's.  If I had an 8" driver that could take 1,000 watts, it doesn't mean I'm going to get what I want out of it with a set of La Scala's.  

But I have Quartets. Never having listened to La Scalas, I can’t compare 

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12 minutes ago, jjptkd said:

Most subs are just wired as LFE channels not true stereo 

Yes, that’s how I got mine right now, over LFE. I never really used subs at home so it was the question wether 1 bigger one via LFE sounds better than two smaller ones in stereo. Just wanting opinions on that to see what direction i want to go. Trying to see pros and cons of each. Plus money is a bit tight at the moment.

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1 hour ago, jjptkd said:

Don't worry about matching subs unless you're running them in stereo IMO just get something big and bad if you want more oomph. 

But isn’t that what you do with two subs?

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3 hours ago, Paducah Home Theater said:

That's not a good way to match up a system in my opinion.  You could have a fairly low power amp with Klipsch speakers that will hit Reference yet have two 4,000  watt speakerpower amps and it could be perfectly balanced.  You could also have a high powered multichannel amp and a single fairly weak amp on a 15" horn and it will scare the bejeezus out of you when the bass hits.  Just kind of more to it than that.  

I get that. My set up works quite well tho. Just want to put a bit more oomph behind did. for when I get into  some ebm. It likes that 😉

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1 hour ago, The History Kid said:

 

My point there is that the sub is probably fine in your configuration, but otherwise...the assessment with the 110 is correct.  That being said, you will only gain approximately 3 dB with adding the second sub - but with better coverage is all.  You would want to look at maybe one of the SPL lines?  I think that's the current.

If I can’t find a matching one to the one I got, then I’ll do that. Found one online for 300 including shipping. And that’s Canadian $

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42 minutes ago, The History Kid said:

 

So the short response is that you just have the upgrade itch.

 

While it's true that you would generally have a sub that outputs more than your mains, consider the following: How often do you think you're using 100 W of power on your Quartets?

Yes, well the add-on itch maybe. Just trying to figure it out what would make it just that little bit better.

id say I hardly ever use 100. Don’t think I ever have, tbh 

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1 hour ago, The History Kid said:

 

OP, you just answered your own question.  See bold/underlined.

 

It's not broken, don't fix it.

No I didn’t. I also thought my two little bookshelves sounded quite good.

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2 hours ago, wuzzzer said:

Dual, identical subwoofers are always better than only one.  Not only will it increase the amount of bass but they'll help eliminate peaks and nulls in your room.  I'd definitely suggest getting another SW-110.

That’s kind of what I figured too. Thank you.

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Just to start this, I’m a complete novice and have a question. I was recently told my sub should have 4 to 5 times the wattage of my speakers. Now, what I’m wondering is the following. My speakers, Klipsch quartets, have 100 each. My current sub (sw-110 has 200watt) sounds quite good the way I got it set up. But it’s not 4-5 times the wattage. Would I be well served by getting a second set-110 or get rid of mine and get just one with 400-500 watt? I’m confused.

 

I listen fairly loud and haven’t had any issues with my current setup. Just wondering about options and what would be better. 
thanks

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19 minutes ago, YK Thom said:

The lads on this site may know where to obtain something along these lines or plans to construct something similar that would be a proper fit for a Quartet.

That’s ok. I’m a millwright and pretty decent at fabricating 😉

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4 minutes ago, YK Thom said:

Yes, something like that 

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1 hour ago, YK Thom said:

You could try it, although I doubt it will be a value add. I hope you have been enjoying them.

Oh man, they are so clear and crisp! Was playing with my sub settings today and got it pretty much figured out. I think I’ll get stand for the quartets tho, at least to tilt them back a little. But that’s for later.

But yea, these things go really well with my amp and I’ll hang on to them for a very long time

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9 minutes ago, YK Thom said:

Each has 120. Your Quartets are quite efficient, (97.5 db). You won't be using anywhere near that much juice before you get blown out of the room..

I noticed

But knowing me, I probably want to experiment adding the little bookshelf speakers I used before over the B channels. Because they did sound pretty decent but didn’t have any oomph. Or would that ruin the soundstage? I suppose I could just try it and see what happens. 

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On 9/26/2021 at 3:45 PM, YK Thom said:

It takes a bit of noodling around to get things perfect. 1' can make a difference. A big woofer and large passive radiator means you don't need to rush out for a new sub anytime soon - if ever, depending on how you listen. Too bad there isn't a Blue Bomber game on this afternoon, your day would be complete!

so, this might be a really dumb question. But if my integrated has 120 watt per channel is that vor 2 channels? Or do all 4 like the two A channels AND the two B channels get 120 each?

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On 9/6/2021 at 8:05 PM, pallpoul said:

I recently paired a Rotel Integrated Amp 1592 with my La Scala II's, and they sound truly amazing, !! Very close to my many other tube amplifiers I use with the LS's.

The sound is airy, with big sound stage, excellent imaging and excellent clarity, yet warm to the ears. 

 

Has any body else had a similar experience combining Rotel audio gear with Klipsch Heritage speakers ? Please share your experience. ty

 

 

I bought the 1572 integrated a few months ago. Got a pair of Quartets yesterday and the sound is amazing. Granted, not quite what you asked but a stage lower.

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50 minutes ago, AndreG. said:

"You´re one of Us now!" – *Mad giggle* 😉

I’m good with that

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8 minutes ago, YK Thom said:

It takes a bit of noodling around to get things perfect. 1' can make a difference. A big woofer and large passive radiator means you don't need to rush out for a new sub anytime soon - if ever, depending on how you listen. Too bad there isn't a Blue Bomber game on this afternoon, your day would be complete!

I looked at how he had it set up and copied it as good as I could. Hate to say it. Only bomber I cheer for is from Motörhead lol