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On 8/6/2023 at 3:48 PM, ClaudeJ1 said:
I'll give you my thoughts, since you asked. The TI 3255 Chip is an amazing device. Just how well it's implemented in lower wattage than the "max" rating makes the difference. Everyone is barking up the wrong tree about this.
You "ahem" review reminds me of the You Tube video from a fauxtographer and his cute wife testing out all the 85mm lenses on the market, photographing a mannequin head. They then declared a Nikon 105 MM to be the winner. What an insult and a waste of time.
If you are all about all horns and big horns, like I am, you already know that big watts don't mean a thing to a Klipsch guy or gal.
Also, this is an old PA-5 thread, so why are you judging negatively an amp that your go "cheap" and not a PA-5?
Emotional testing without data, is just another opinion, especially with all the flowery word BS that comes from StereoPhool and Absulutely Soundless magazines whose reviewers listen to good MUSIC in crappy room.
Waste of time.
The reason why I would like to try this amplifier myself is as follows.
Recently, someone from the forum visited my home. He also listened to a full horn system and used a T-amp (I think that's the designation for Class D amps?) to drive his speakers, and he was very positive about these amps. As a test, he brought one along, briefly listened to it with my speakers, and I found the initial impression to be quite good. Considering the low cost and still impressive performance, I thought it would be nice to experience this myself as well.
In a PM conversation with Henry about the Class D amp, Henry pointed me to this topic where other users were very positive about the Topping. I hope this has provided some more clarity about the how and why. -
Curious to know how a class D amp can sound, I did some research and inquiries and the Tpa3255 board seemed like the best choice. I found a very affordable one on Amazon.
Fosi Audio TB10D 600Watt TPA3255 Mini Amplifier HiFi Stereo Class D Amplifier Integrated 2 Channel Digital Audio Receiver for Passive Home Speakers with Treble and Bass Control https://amzn.eu/d/0DF2Cst
I received it yesterday and tested it on the Lascala with my brother. We had been listening to a SET 300B for a while before trying this D class amp. It doesn't sound bad, especially considering its price and size, let me be clear about that!
But... If we judge the amplifier with an audiophile's perspective, it falls a bit short. The sound lacks body, has a slightly harsh tone, and isn't very musical.
I find it hard to believe that this would sound as good as a decent SS amp (I have no experience with SS amps).
Now, I'm not entirely sure if my initial impression of a D amp is accurate. Could it be that I bought a too inexpensive amplifier and the PA5 will sound better? Given the price difference, one might think so. However, on the other hand, there's nothing particularly exceptional in such an amplifier that could make a significant difference, in my opinion. It consists of a power supply and a board.
Does anyone have thoughts on this?
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Yesterday, I sent the person a message that I'd like to buy the speakers from him. He has decided to keep them for himself 🙄
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8 hours ago, Iteachstem said:
My suggestion is buy the CF3's
Then, do a side by side A/B comparison in the actual room in which they will be residing. Listen to a bunch of songs you know well. Then, keep the pair you like more and sell the other. It's not like you're going to lose any money, but you will take all of the guess work out of ending up with the speakers you like more.
I was thinking about doing this.
I guess 1000,- euro should not be a problem to get my money back when I want to sell them
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He also owns a SS amp, I think it is a Denon with 80 wpc.
But he prefers the sound of a tubeamp.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the Chorus known for being a bit thin in the low end? And the CF-3, on the other hand, was known for having a fuller low end? -
Thank you
He will be using a tubeamp. The Dynaco ST70II..
Can't recall the Watt output, if I remember it correctly it was around the 35 Watts
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Thank you for the input.
I know from my own experience that each speaker can sound different with an equal-sized woofer. I think the assumption that 'the Chorus woofer is bigger, so it should have more bass' is too simplistic. I have no idea how the CF-3 sounds with two woofers, even if they are slightly smaller, having two of them might result in a fuller bass perhaps? . I remember reading that the Epic CF-3 actually produced decent bass, but I'm not sure if I remembered it correctly 😏
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A question for the Epic experts.
Someone is offering his Epic CF-3 for sale for 1000,- euro.
I'm considering buying it for my brother.
He's currently using my old Chorus speakers, and he enjoys them, but he feels they lack some bass. His music taste is very diverse, but he mainly listens to lively pop, rock, and metal.Two questions:
What is a reasonable price for the Epic CF-3?
And how will the CF-3 compare to the Chorus speakers? -
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I waited for three weeks for someone whom I thought had a lot of expertise. I had high expectations for his visit, to be honest. He came by on Saturday, promising to bring various acoustic panels and measuring equipment to help identify and address the issues. Maybe it's my mistake for expecting too much, but despite his good intentions (which I appreciate), the man lacked the knowledge he claimed to have and didn't bring anything he had promised.
He did have two huge bass traps worth 1500 each in his van, though. After an hour of listening and fiddling around, the man left, and I feel like I'm back to square one. Well, except that I know now that bass traps won't help in my situation, not even the flutter echo improved.
Now, I'm researching what I can use to cover my walls to improve the acoustics. I've seen a few decent products, but I'm still searching, hoping to find something better.
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Honestly, WAF can be the number one factor determining the size of your speakers, the maximum volume you can listen to your music, how far you can place the speakers from the wall in terms of speaker placement, and whether you can opt for that "actually expensive amplifier" or stick with the "affordable model," etc..etc...
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I also own the Al-5, and while I don't have an immediate need for a sub, I am considering adding a horn sub to the system in the future. Daan from this forum suggested replicating the basscabin of the Klipschorn and, if you don't have corners available (like me), placing it on its side against a wall. The floor and wall would then act as the necessary extension of the horn. I thought it was a fantastic idea to add sub-bass using a horn to your system.
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Thank you for the tips that are being given.
And sorry for my late response, it's been a bit of a chaotic week here 🙄.
But bass traps... aren't they just for filtering out the low frequencies?
They don't really help much with the echo issue I have in my living room, right?
Also, I saw the price of 1 bass trap... 1500,- 😳
I haven't looked further, maybe I stumbled upon the most exotic bass trap available. But I will never spend that much on something like this 😄. -
Thx.. Nice read 😊
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Good day,
Apparently, I have an acoustic problem that became apparent after purchasing my Lascala AL-5 speakers.
My living room is 38x18 feet , and both the walls and ceiling are made of concrete with a plaster layer. The result is a delightful echo that doesn't do justice to the sound quality.
As a test, I hung large thick cloths on both walls, covering a significant portion of them. This resulted in a considerable improvement in the sound.
Now, I want to tackle the walls and possibly the ceiling myself, covering them with a material or panels that at least match the effect of the cloths, but preferably surpass it.
When I search on Google, it presents various companies that offer products for this purpose, but apart from some exorbitant prices, I can't find any information on the level of absorption of these materials. Nowhere do I see a unit of measurement (if it even exists) that provides insight into the magnitude of the effect it will have.Are there any members who have personal experience with this and know which products work well, at least matching or even surpassing my cloth test?
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2 hours ago, OO1 said:
2k Euros would be fair
I was hoping for 1500,- but 2k would be a bit better 😁
Maybe my brother will get mij CW4, so perhaps the Chorus have to go.
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I am quite surprised that some people here are so positive about placing large speakers in a small room. I have no doubt about their experience and knowledge, but know that it can certainly cause problems.
I myself own the LaScala AL-5, have a room that is approximately 39 feet by 18 feet, and I have significant acoustic issues. There is still a possibility that I won't be able to solve this, and I might have to invest a considerable amount of money in acoustic treatment or part ways with the LaScala.
I wish you the best in whichever choice you make, and I hope it brings you happiness.
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My brother owns a pair of Chorus 1.
(they where mine before)
What is a fair price for these speakers when he want to sell them?
They have been completely sanded down and revarnished by a professional. So, they look like new, but not original in terms of the varnish.
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3 hours ago, 82 Cornwalls said:
H-IVs are over 1 foot deep + out from the wall 1 foot + 7 feet listening distance = 9 feet.
Listening position against the back wall when listening = bad
If for any reason you are forced to have your listening position tightly against the back wall, can an absorbing audio panel alleviate all the negative effects?
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3 hours ago, Islander said:
Yes, the veneer. The Lacquered Walnut is very delicate and easily scratched. Even resting your hand on the speakers while wearing a watch with a stainless steel bracelet can cause scratches if you move your hand around. So many sharp corners on those bracelets. However, when I called Klipsch Customer Service about how to repair some scratch marks on my old black-painted plywood La Scalas, I was told to use a Magic Marker, a felt pen with permanent ink. I used it and it did make the scratch less noticeable, but I certainly wouldn't use anything like that on the lacquered LS2s. I have some old Audio Logic speakers, a local brand from Toronto in the '80s. They're covered in oiled walnut veneer. The oiled walnut is certainly more scratch resistant, and you can put things on top of the speaker without making dents in the finish, like you get with lacquer. The helpful guy at Klipsch CS told me that lacquer never really hardens, which is why the feet of anything that's placed on them, even the peel-and-stick rubber or plastic feet of anything that weighs more than a few ounces/50 grams (rounding off, wise guys), can leave little dents in the finish.
Sure, oiled walnut (or cherry, or oak) finishes need to be oiled periodically, and La Scalas or Khorns are really big speakers, so it will take more than five minutes to apply all that oil, but maybe that's really not too much of a tradeoff for a more durable finish that won't make you nervous whenever a vacuum cleaner enters the room. "No, I insist. The inch of carpet in front of the speakers does not need to be vacuumed. It will be just fine. Please."
I own the CW4 in Walnut veneer and the Lascala AL5 in Cherry. I'm not sure if they use the same types of finishes as your Lascala II, but I found that the best way to remove scratches is to use regular natural maintenance oil for wooden furniture. I was able to purchase the Lascala at a greatly reduced price due to the numerous highly visible and large scratches. I even used parquet oil, and everything is completely gone. There are still some grooves on the surface where the lacquer/veneer was pressed in, but in terms of color and appearance, all the scratches are completely gone. Perhaps this trick can help you out.
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1 hour ago, Islander said:
My experience with Heresys is that when I upgraded a good-sounding Heresy II to Heresy III specs, using the Klipsch factory update kit, the speaker did sound better, with deeper and stronger bass and more clarity, plus it gained 2 dB in sensitivity, going from 97 dB/m to 99 dB/m, allowing a better match with the La Scalas.
With the La Scalas, I have a pair of 1974 models, which sound good, but when I got a pair of 2007 La Scala IIs, once again, the bass was stronger, although it didn't go any deeper. As well, the improved appearance of the walnut lacquer finish meant that they went to the front of the room, while the black-painted plywood original La Scalas go to the back of the room, to serve as the Surround speakers. The LS2s are the Main speakers. The sound is more important, of course, but the LS2s are improved in every way, except for cabinet toughness. You can't get everything in one speaker model.
Now you've made me curious.
Years ago, I had the original La Scala. Now, many years later, I have the La Scala AL-5.
Unfortunately, I have no idea how the original La Scala sounded, and I can't compare them anymore since I don't have them.
What's your experience? How does the La Scala II differ in terms of sound from the original La Scala?And what do you mean with cabinet toughness?.. The fineer?
Topping PA5 is incredible.
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He advised me to try the Trends audio TA10.2.
Due to certain factors, I ended up making a different choice, partly because I thought everything was fairly similar. All of them D class, affordable, and sounding very good for the money.
Now I'm wondering, did I simply make the wrong choice in terms of a D amp, or is this just how a D amp is supposed to sound?