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I wasn't able to get mine updated either, but the G-17 seems to work perhaps better than acumen's. Certainly I would like to have it working properly however.

Hi, were you able to resolve this situation? If so, how? I have the same issue. I press Ok and then never get to the screen to select the new firmware. Thanks!

Thanks a lot, glad to see another in the burn-in camp. They now sound great, especially with the cable upgrade.

---------------- On 3/30/2003 5:49:16 PM Krispy Kirk wrote: Before you blame your Promedias, do this: hook a portable CD player (containing your favorite CD) into the music input on the side of the control module and crank it up. NOW how do they sound? My soundcard sucks azz but my Promedias rock HARD with music. Therefore, I am keeping them (and upgrading to a better PC ASAP!) ---------------- I have tried them with other sources, my sound card isn't noisy, but part of it was the lack of initial burn in, part was the output level of the card (just had to find the optimum setting), and part was the awful cables that caused static and lack of depth. The higher quality Monster XP set solved the trick with little effort on my part, it sounds as though yours did the same. Those cables significantly increased the quality of the audio even when the original cables were solidly connected, I was blown away.

I used Apple Computer AppleDesign powered speakers, which really are quite good. http://www.schalliol.com/G4/2.jpg should show them there. They had dual inputs even though they came with my 2x external SCSI CD-ROM in '95 or so.

Sure, I was trying to determine if Klipsch has a recommended procedure for this, I wouldn't have asked the question if I knew the recommended way to do it. Look above at some of the comments made, don't you think that a more appropriate response would have been: "Research I have seen indicates that there is no point in burning in speakers" I have not had "adamant insistance upon holding to that information as being the truth regardless of other opinions". My assertion is that many credible organizations believe that it is worthwile to do this type of procedure for speakers. If an opinion based on at least some sort of testing indicates that it is not useful or recommended, then I would be fine with that response. Nothing I have seen here indicated anything other than feelings. If there was something else, I must have missed it. Normally if your car manufacturer recommended that you not drive it over 80 in the first 1000 miles or something like that, you would not ask them to prove that there is a reason for this comment. However, if you were told from someone else that it is pointless to follow that, you would want some test to indicate this, since the manufacturer ought to know best how to deal with its own product. In this case there are so many manufacturers and industry experts that indicate that burn-in on speakers is good that SOME sort of test providing the contrary is in order. If Klipsch says not to burn-in my speakers as a statement, that's fine with me, I won't do it! ....I even said ok to your post about no need for the procedure and was going to leave it at that. Since you brought the issue back up, I thought you wanted to discuss it.

I believe that I was clear in asking for information when I made my post. Others did not seem to understand this and insulted me through my assertion that it MIGHT be worthwhile to burn-in speakers. As, I felt attacked, I thought that I would attempt to provide some backup for my assertion. What else would you expect when people write such statements as "Think.", contending that my thoughts are totally absurd?

I hardly think that this process is part of a consipiracy by speaker manufacturers to have you keep them in your home for a week. Most instructions I've seen do not recommend you're listening to the speakers during the process, as most of the burn-in tracks are noise across the audible spectrum. In fact, if burn-in is done at higher SPL the so called "Wife Approval Factor" may come into play as there would be periods of just plain noise eminating from the listening room. Why is it so hard to believe that the material of drivers' surround is not as flexible right after production as after it has had a chance to flex a bit? Some manufacturers do the burn-in at the factory, negating the need for the conspiracy theory. Even though audio authorities can measure the before and after response and find the process (at least on speakers) useful, I still see no reason for manufacturers to recommend this process if there's no benefit. I know if I didn't expect it, that if I bought expensive speakers and was told I couldn't really use them for critical listening until a process was completed that I'd be disapointed. Causing me to be unhappy with my purchase. So, I've found several references (very quickly) including manufacturers that indicate that you can should do the process. At this point I am assuming that these manufactuers have done some homework in this area. Rather than just insulting me, perhaps the best thing for you to do is find someone who has measured response before and after the process and finds nothing worthwhile about it.

Why would manufacturers recommend this process if there's no use? It doesn't make them any money or anything like that. http://www.smr-archive.com/forum_2/messages/1664.shtml http://www.audioasylum.com/forums/MUG/messages/40156.html http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/Hardware/Guides/speakerguide/6.html http://www.tivolihifi.com.au/tips.ihtml http://www.paradigm.ca/Support/TechFAQ/TechFAQ.html#Question16 (called break-in here) http://www.fredsoundofmusic.com/newsletter5.html http://www.soundreproduction.com/discussion/loudspeaker/messages/245.html If you need more, I can provide. I was just asking a question about how best to do this process on these speakers (sheesh!). I made a post about poor quality sound out of the box on these, now they seem not to distort as much, etc. I'm thinking that this process has begun. Thanks

Well, check the manual. I just figured that computer speakers wouldn't get the level of detail. Audio biz. people recommend them, including most mid & high-end speaker manufacturers. Stereophile magazine sells a CD with a burn-in track that they recommend you play.

Sure I agree with this, but nonetheless it seems that the speakers need the flexing, etc. before they create the designed sound....similar to the way you break in a car. I'm willing to bet that if you buy other Klipsch speakers (big ones) that they describe the ideal way to do this.

I do have the eq. set to flat and the computer is outputing flat as well. I guess what I was trying to say is that it seems that the crossover on the sub is too low and bass is being sent to the satellites that should stay in the sub.

Hmm, well, as I understand it, ALL drivers require some degree of burn-in for optimal sound, but ok. BTW, I just think this is fun, but I used to live in the same sub-division as the President of Klipsch (Spring Mill Streams - Carmel, IN) :-)

I just got my ProMedia 2.1 and saw no burn in instructions in the manual. How is it advised to burn in the satellites and sub?

Well, I just got my new 2.1 ProMedias today (shoot, looks like they just released new ones) and it seems that there is too much bass in the satellites and doesn't sound very good. I was listening to my 320Kbps Braveheart soundtrack and it just plain sounded awful. Is there anything I can do about this?